Premier League to assist lower leagues

[RedPaul]

EFL clubs accept £50m Premier League bailout for Leagues One and Two

The EFL clubs’ U-turn over the Premier League’s offer of a £50m rescue package offers hope of a solution to football’s financial crisis

www.theguardian.com

"The Premier League’s offer currently includes unconditional funding – a split between loans and grants totalling £50m – to clubs in League One and League Two."

Well as long as Mansfield don't get any as clearly they have plenty to splash about on yet another manager

 

[Banksy]

Well as long as Mansfield don't get any as clearly they have plenty to splash about on yet another manager

Trouble is we’d get the same argument thrown at us albeit for another more prudent reason.

 

[jimbo-gould]

Apologies if this has been posted already on this thread, Ive not kept up-to-date with it.

Not 'B' teams necessarily, but what how do people feel about this/could it work? A snippet from the Athletic. https://theathletic.co.uk/2184033/2020/11/09/ornstein-greenwood-premier-league/

Premier League clubs offered to help stricken Bury
One aspect of the Project Big Picture proposals that appears certain to come under continued consideration is the recommended revamp of the domestic loan system, reports Laurie Whitwell.
Amid the documents is a suggestion that clubs would be allowed to loan up to four players to one other English team, with the limit on only two over-23 players scrapped.
It looks a precursor to Premier League ‘B’ teams in the EFL but the strength of feeling towards the idea could be seen last year in the way top-flight clubs reacted to the prospect of Bury’s demise. It has emerged that several clubs made tentative offers of financial assistance in exchange for the freedom to place loan players at the club, which was then in League One before being expelled from the Football League.
One submission, made informally, was for a £300,000 investment so long as the unnamed Premier League club could send four players on loan and, crucially, put a coach into Gigg Lane on secondment to oversee their development. This latter element is something several elite teams feel is a worthwhile path to follow.
The discussions never got off the ground because the EFL does not allow clubs to provide monetary support to others in the football pyramid to guard against conflicts of interest.

 

[budegrecian]

Apologies if this has been posted already on this thread, Ive not kept up-to-date with it.

Not 'B' teams necessarily, but what how do people feel about this/could it work? A snippet from the Athletic. https://theathletic.co.uk/2184033/2020/11/09/ornstein-greenwood-premier-league/

Premier League clubs offered to help stricken Bury
One aspect of the Project Big Picture proposals that appears certain to come under continued consideration is the recommended revamp of the domestic loan system, reports Laurie Whitwell.
Amid the documents is a suggestion that clubs would be allowed to loan up to four players to one other English team, with the limit on only two over-23 players scrapped.
It looks a precursor to Premier League ‘B’ teams in the EFL but the strength of feeling towards the idea could be seen last year in the way top-flight clubs reacted to the prospect of Bury’s demise. It has emerged that several clubs made tentative offers of financial assistance in exchange for the freedom to place loan players at the club, which was then in League One before being expelled from the Football League.
One submission, made informally, was for a £300,000 investment so long as the unnamed Premier League club could send four players on loan and, crucially, put a coach into Gigg Lane on secondment to oversee their development. This latter element is something several elite teams feel is a worthwhile path to follow.
The discussions never got off the ground because the EFL does not allow clubs to provide monetary support to others in the football pyramid to guard against conflicts of interest.

Thanks for posting this.
Firstly, the PL obviously don't do irony; they really don't see the big picture at all do they? All they see is their own vested interest.
So taking a possible scenario, if the EFL relent on their previous opposition: a PL team gives City £300k, a coach & 4 youngsters they select, which we would be obliged to play, regardless of form. So, MT says 'we don't want a RB, we've got a fantastic one of our own'. To which the PL side say 'tough, we're giving you a RB & you will play him whether you like it or not'.
Ok, extreme example & whilst preferable to B sides, not by much. Under no circumstances should we support this, IMO.

 

[RedPaul]

Trouble is we’d get the same argument thrown at us albeit for another more prudent reason.

Mansfield are a badly run vanity project and have owners with very deep pockets.

We are the opposite. We can prove player sales are essential to our long term viability and we reinvest any spare cash back into our academy with a modest slice going into the playing budget.

 

[Boyo]

Thanks for posting this.
Firstly, the PL obviously don't do irony; they really don't see the big picture at all do they? All they see is their own vested interest.
So taking a possible scenario, if the EFL relent on their previous opposition: a PL team gives City £300k, a coach & 4 youngsters they select, which we would be obliged to play, regardless of form. So, MT says 'we don't want a RB, we've got a fantastic one of our own'. To which the PL side say 'tough, we're giving you a RB & you will play him whether you like it or not'.
Ok, extreme example & whilst preferable to B sides, not by much. Under no circumstances should we support this, IMO.

IF that happens it would kill lower league football very quickly. I would have no interest in watching youngsters of a Premier League club turning out in the boots of our own Academy lads, to play against a team that contains 4 youngsters of a different Premier League Club.

Loan players are effective when they embed themselves and integrate into their host Clubs. I have affinity for Dara O'Shea and Kane Wilson because they became temporary Grecians. I can't see that happening if they come en-mass with their own coach.

 

[budegrecian]

Mansfield are a badly run vanity project and have owners with very deep pockets.

We are the opposite. We can prove player sales are essential to our long term viability and we reinvest any spare cash back into our academy with a modest slice going into the playing budget.

My take on this is that the original deal was turned down by EFL clubs as the PL wanted to treat Championship clubs on an individual basis, with regard to any possible funding. Therefore I assume they weren't proposing to treat Lge1 & Lge 2 sides in the same way & the clubs in each league would receive the same amount, albeit Lge 1 clubs would receive a larger amount than those in Lge 2.

 

[John William]

My take on this is that the original deal was turned down by EFL clubs as the PL wanted to treat Championship clubs on an individual basis, with regard to any possible funding. Therefore I assume they weren't proposing to treat Lge1 & Lge 2 sides in the same way & the clubs in each league would receive the same amount, albeit Lge 1 clubs would receive a larger amount than those in Lge 2.

If it goes on the same basis as "solidarity payments" any cash will be split 80 : 12 : 8 between the three.

 

[Rosencrantz]

If it goes on the same basis as "solidarity payments" any cash will be split 80 : 12 : 8 between the three.

That would be L1 getting 2/3 and L2 getting 1/3. I wonder if the loans are optional.

 

[Oldsmobile-88]

My take on this is that the original deal was turned down by EFL clubs as the PL wanted to treat Championship clubs on an individual basis, with regard to any possible funding. Therefore I assume they weren't proposing to treat Lge1 & Lge 2 sides in the same way & the clubs in each league would receive the same amount, albeit Lge 1 clubs would receive a larger amount than those in Lge 2.

Yes..There are some very wealthy club owners in the Championship some no doubt with more ‘poke’ than a few PL clubs,that seems a sticking point.

What a ambiguous statement that was from the EFL yesterday !