Summer Transfer Thread

[andrew p long]

Should we start to worry/think MT is worried about the keeper position if Scott Brown plays tomorrow?

 

[IndoMike]

They'll be loads of players who are holding out for £X but currently have only been offered £Y. As the season approaches, those players will lower their expectations, which will make them affordable to other clubs.

There will also be plenty of players that don't make the starting 11 or the matchday squad on the first day of the season, who will suddenly want to engineer a move (loan or perm), to get regular games.

I don't agree with your first paragraph at all
If they are quality players holding out for the best deal we are unlikely to be the club that can offer that best deal.
The difference this season is that we're in Div 1. We can't pay much more than 2.5k tops for a quality player : hardly enough for Div 1 standards, but it is good Lg 1 quality that we need
Our hope is to get another Dawson , Dara or Stockley or a teenage jewel on loan.

 

[andrew p long]

Exactly - the line I’ve seen used a few times in that the window ends Sept 1 - what’s actually available by then? I know people will say Stockley and Boateng but that was a one off

The best players MT has signed have all come before August (usually late June/early July) and this season starts a week earlier

In terms of quality I think *everyone* needs to downgrade their expectations

Some of us already understand that we are no longer on Plan A so we won't get our first choices. The issue for me is whether Plan B (or C,D,..Z) works

 

[Boyo]

I don’t think squad building should be done in this way and neither has Taylor until this season. Very much a Tisdale move that results in square pegs.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. MT has said there are plenty of players he could sign today, but is choosing not to because they don't improve us. We have put offers in front of other players, but they are not biting at the moment. Waiting on players/clubs to lower their expectations to dovetail with our wage structure and location is a gamble, admittedly. The alternative is that we sign players that don't improve us.

In the season we went down from L1 under Tisdale, we panic brought loads of players mid-season. They were largely poor signings and didn't improve us.

 

[Boyo]

I don't agree with your first paragraph at all
If they are quality players holding out for the best deal we are unlikely to be the club that can offer that best deal.
The difference this season is that we're in Div 1. We can't pay much more than 2.5k tops for a quality player : hardly enough for Div 1 standards, but it is good Lg 1 quality that we need
Our hope is to get another Dawson , Dara or Stockley or a teenage jewel on loan.

If a player's agent has told a player that he should aim for £3k / week, but the top offer received so far is £2.5k / week, what do you think that player is going to do as the end of the window looms? Whichever club has offered £2.5k / week is probably in pole position.

 

[Arthur Davey]

What's this obsession with worry in so many quarters on here?

 

[Moomin Grecian]

Norwood gone to Barnsley. I highly doubt we were in for him, anyway but I can imagine he’s picking very good money there.

 

[IndoMike]

If a player's agent has told a player that he should aim for £3k / week, but the top offer received so far is £2.5k / week, what do you think that player is going to do as the end of the window looms? Whichever club has offered £2.5k / week is probably in pole position.

But the chances of all of that falling into place are unlikely. Imo there are not "loads of players" in that situation, but if he's a quality player there are loads of clubs who can pay more than City. That's not a criticism of City : it's just the reality that we
are all aware of. But I wouldn't swap City for the Salfords, Mansfields, Crawleys, Stockports, Sheff Wednesdays etc of this world. Small is beautiful.

 

[IndoMike]

What's this obsession with worry in so many quarters on here?

I'm not worried, but I've just ordered in a couple of bottles of whisky In case I do get worried

 

[Grecian Max]

I'm not sure I follow your logic. MT has said there are plenty of players he could sign today, but is choosing not to because they don't improve us. We have put offers in front of other players, but they are not biting at the moment. Waiting on players/clubs to lower their expectations to dovetail with our wage structure and location is a gamble, admittedly. The alternative is that we sign players that don't improve us.

In the season we went down from L1 under Tisdale, we panic brought loads of players mid-season. They were largely poor signings and didn't improve us.

Tisdale regularly waited until late on and freely admitted he’d do it deliberately to get what he felt was the best players when they’d run out of options (often for fitness reasons). You’d get gems but then his teams were often full of good footballers that weren’t played to a specific position because he’d picked them up for ability alone.

Taylor has, in every window so far been far more focussed on specialist for where he needs them in the system. He identifies what he wants and has, in the main , got his best players in “early”. Certainly not end of August//September.