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Mr Jinx

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Yes, I do get that. It's the subtle 'shaping' of the news, airing of the lies, and then its consequences, as witnessed in the US. Dangerous.
We've had that here since the dawn of time. Well since the Sunday Sport, anyway. If people really want to read about ice cream vans found on the moon and really believe it, then let them. Like I said, especially these days, if it's legal then it should be allowed in the public domain, otherwise it'll just go underground.
 

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Just wondering what UK news programs are currently only available on Satellite/Cable? Even Sky News is now freely available. Not that I watch any of them any more. Sky News was my Alamo, but since their takeover and awokening, I've given them an Al special Spanish archer.
Other than those you've mentioned you Have RT (Russian) CCTV (Chinese) Nothing biased about those two! 🙄😄 Al Jazeera, A few French/European channels and US ones but most just cover their own countries and I guess are just feeds not "International" versions.
 

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Watching the US networks coverage of the Trump disgrace last week shocked me how opinionated the presenters were. Not the interviewees, the presenters. If Huw Edwards or Tom Bradby did that, there would be outcry. They made Piers Morgan look like Richard Dimbleby.
Absolutely RP.
It was truly shocking how the anchors were editorialising the story and basically at times borderline making stuff up. I got the impression they were not so much reporting on the story and it’s obvious ramifications but seizing on it as someone would if they trying to make the maximum political capital out of it.
I hope that sort of partisanship never becomes part of the political discourse over here.
 

arthur

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Absolutely RP.
It was truly shocking how the anchors were editorialising the story and basically at times borderline making stuff up. I got the impression they were not so much reporting on the story and it’s obvious ramifications but seizing on it as someone would if they trying to make the maximum political capital out of it.
I hope that sort of partisanship never becomes part of the political discourse over here.
So, following the American example is not a good idea? Could you have a word with Jinx, who seems to think it is?
 

tavyred

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So, following the American example is not a good idea? Could you have a word with Jinx, who seems to think it is?
I don’t think the US way of doing things is permissible over here art. It’s my perception that broadcast news is quite heavily regulated over here in comparison.
 

Mr Jinx

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I don’t think the US way of doing things is permissible over here art. It’s my perception that broadcast news is quite heavily regulated over here in comparison.
Of course. When I say "legal", I mean within Ofcom's (?) rules/guidelines.

Unsure what the guidelines and parameters are in the US.
 

arthur

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I don’t think the US way of doing things is permissible over here art. It’s my perception that broadcast news is quite heavily regulated over here in comparison.
Yes. Which makes it a bit dull, rather than biased, imho. I can understand why someone like Jinx, who has an Arron Banks like desire to stir things up for the sake of his own amusement, wants something feistier....
 

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We've had that here since the dawn of time. Well since the Sunday Sport, anyway. If people really want to read about ice cream vans found on the moon and really believe it, then let them. Like I said, especially these days, if it's legal then it should be allowed in the public domain, otherwise it'll just go underground.
Nobody has suggested GB News shouldn't be allowed, just expressing disquiet about its format, for the reasons given.
 

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I don’t think the US way of doing things is permissible over here art. It’s my perception that broadcast news is quite heavily regulated over here in comparison.
Yes it is although as a result it is guilty of being too much like 'group think', not helped by the generally similar lives and upbringing that those working in broadcast media have.

I actually think there is a wider role for broadcast versions of newspaper articles. If say Farage made a TV programme on the 'impact of Brexit' and then the following night, Tony Blair made one - I don't see the issue with that. It would improve the debate, and move it on from soundbites.

I accept actually news bulletins are a little different and they should try and stick to 'facts' as much as possible, but then there's lies, damned lies and statistics. What really grates me in TV news is this obsession with vox pops, even on the most uncontroversial of subjects. They just have to ensure they get 2 random people in the street, one to agree about x and then other to argue about it - regardless of whether the actual public opinion as a whole is genuinely 50/50 or actually 95/5, but they need to represent the 5 in the interests of 'balance'.
 
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