Tisdale must go ...

[IndoMike]

Re: Tisdale must go

Ok, fred (et al), happy to concede that and put it down to my misreading.

Trigger happy?

 

[Sexton Blake]

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Looking back over these posts what is this nonsense about setting up teams. In seasons gone by you never heard the likes of Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, Matt Busby or Bill Nicholson talk like that nor did they appear to change their approach as to how they played home or away. They bought defenders to defend, wing halfs (one to defend the other to create), forwards to score goals and wingers with dribbling skills capable of turning their opposing full back inside out and crossing the ball to create chances.

Football is such a simple game score more goals than your opponent and you are home and dry. In those days apart from Man City and their Revie based "W" formation even when formations changed from the traditional 1,2,3 and 5 to 4-2-4 attackers attacked and defenders defended. The subsequent change from specialist positions to every player expected to perform a multitude of tasks has unnecessarily complicated what is, as I have said earlier, a simple game.

 

[PeteUSA]

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Looking back over these posts what is this nonsense about setting up teams. In seasons gone by you never heard the likes of Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, Matt Busby or Bill Nicholson talk like that nor did they appear to change their approach as to how they played home or away. They bought defenders to defend, wing halfs (one to defend the other to create), forwards to score goals and wingers with dribbling skills capable of turning their opposing full back inside out and crossing the ball to create chances.

Football is such a simple game score more goals than your opponent and you are home and dry. In those days apart from Man City and their Revie based "W" formation even when formations changed from the traditional 1,2,3 and 5 to 4-2-4 attackers attacked and defenders defended. The subsequent change from specialist positions to every player expected to perform a multitude of tasks has unnecessarily complicated what is, as I have said earlier, a simple game.

I totally agree with all of the above mate. I recall the days fondly when players had numbers on their backs from 2 to 11 and played in their set positions rigidly. Goalkeepers having a number on their jersey didnt start until the early 60's and was just a copycat idea taken from continental teams like Hungary. Remember the football programs of the 50's and 60's where both team line-ups could be found as a centre-fold all in the positions they were going to be playing in? You bought a program in order to see who was playing for both sides; now its just a list of about 16 players, leaving you guessing who's playing; far too complicated.

You might recall we did come up with our own plan based on Revie's idea called the "M" plan. I remember It had Arnold Mitchell playing as a deep lying center forward, whatever that meant. I dont think it helped a lot!

 

[Sexton Blake]

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I totally agree with all of the above mate. I recall the days fondly when players had numbers on their backs from 2 to 11 and played in their set positions rigidly. Goalkeepers having a number on their jersey didnt start until the early 60's and was just a copycat idea taken from continental teams like Hungary. Remember the football programs of the 50's and 60's where both team line-ups could be found as a centre-fold all in the positions they were going to be playing in? You bought a program in order to see who was playing for both sides; now its just a list of about 16 players, leaving you guessing who's playing; far too complicated.

You might recall we did come up with our own plan based on Revie's idea called the "M" plan. I remember It had Arnold Mitchell playing as a deep lying center forward, whatever that meant. I dont think it helped a lot!

Hi Pete I know we will probably be hauled over the coals for going off topic but I remember it well. Agreed it was not a great success and was probably tried out in the very early 1950s at the time when the likes of Angus McKay and Charlie Mcclelland were playing.

 

[PeteUSA]

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Hi Pete I know we will probably be hauled over the coals for going off topic but I remember it well. Agreed it was not a great success and was probably tried out in the very early 1950s at the time when the likes of Angus McKay and Charlie Mcclelland were playing.

Angus McKay; All round good inside forward, great landlord at The Locomotive, and and his latter years his High Street window cleaning business. I remember his wife got killed in an auto accident after his playing days. He had a son called Rod who played for me.

 

[Sexton Blake]

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Second from bottom he has to go but the only way we are going to get rid is by the present Trust Board growing some. We all know that will not happen. Our only chance is to make sure the four individuals standing on the "reform" ticket are elected. I would urge everyone to vote for them and also at the same leave your other three votes unused otherwise there will be a strong risk of prejudicing the chances of those you really want to see elected.

 

[Barum]

Re: Tisdale must go

Second from bottom he has to go but the only way we are going to get rid is by the present Trust Board growing some. We all know that will not happen. Our only chance is to make sure the four individuals standing on the "reform" ticket are elected. I would urge everyone to vote for them and also at the same leave your other three votes unused otherwise there will be a strong risk of prejudicing the chances of those you really want to see elected.

I am no longer a member, but with the lumbering bureaurcractic dinosaur that the Trust has become, will it be too late by then?

 

[Stuffy]

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Angus McKay; All round good inside forward, great landlord at The Locomotive, and and his latter years his High Street window cleaning business. I remember his wife got killed in an auto accident after his playing days. He had a son called Rod who played for me.

Dined with Angus and his son in the Taj, Queen street many years ago. Enjoyed his reminiscences about his playing days. Nice bloke.

 

[Sexton Blake]

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I am no longer a member, but with the lumbering bureaurcractic dinosaur that the Trust has become, will it be too late by then?

That is why we do not want to re-elect any of the current Trustees who have shown themselves to be so procedurally fixated. I am confident that amongst the four standing under the "reform" ticket there is one individual in particular with the right attitude and credentials to take the Chair and from that position force through the necessary changes within a reasonable time frame.

 

[PeteUSA]

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.................sorry wrong thread. :$