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Tisdale must go ...

D__Lo__

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A back four of JMT, Troy x2 and Sweeney would be just dandy - but it hasn't happened yet. And who knows how likely it is to happen at least with any frequency.
Completely unconvinced by this. Neither JMT or Sweeney are natural full-backs. They offer a limited amount going forward whilst both lack the pace and engines for the role. I fail to see how such unambitious choices would breathe any life into the dire home form, certainly offensively and even defensively given these issues are far more extensive than the full-backs.

I concede possibly on paper it's the best option but that's more a reflection of the appalling squad construction especially in defence and more-over the full-back areas.

Not specifically to you, but anyone who believes the full-back options for the season are anywhere near acceptable is either in denial or ill-informed re. the options available.
 
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Jason H

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Re: Tisdale must go

A full back won't win or lose you the league. It's your spine and, depending on how you set up further up, the width in attack that gets you there.
 

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A full back won't win or lose you the league. It's your spine and, depending on how you set up further up, the width in attack that gets you there.
I think there's shades of grey to that one. Firstly there is the old adage (how valid it is is debatable) that goals win games, but defences win titles.

Secondly, if you argue that "width in attack" can win you the title (depending how you set up, as you say) then having good full backs becomes critical to a good defensive record (and then refer back to point 1)

In my (very poor, very short) footballing "career" (strictly Sunday league stuff) I mostly played full back so I am definitely biased but in the modern game at least, a good full back able to get forward on the overlap as well as able to work hard as part of the defensive unit can make the difference between, well last season (Ribeiro) and this season (no specialist right back at all) - at our level we aren't going to be signing Cafu but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have anyone capable enough to play the role at this level.
 
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A full back won't win or lose you the league. It's your spine and, depending on how you set up further up, the width in attack that gets you there.
Hmm don't think I did say it was the 'be all and end all' but to dismiss it would be negligible. My point is offensively JMT and Sweeney is at best unambitious and would do nothing for the home form. I've said before Sweeney (and this can be applied to JMT too tbh) could do a job when set-up defensively particularly against better teams but 'could do a job' just about sums up the aspirations at St. James'. This is not sufficient at home the majority of the time.

If you want to talk about spine lets start with centre-midfield. Two similar players, incapable of competing physically and past their best at their supposed strength (i.e. ball-playing) Beyond these two there's no cover apart from youngsters (albeit one of the best prospects in the country who still hasn't been given a proper chance in his preferred position) I repeat "appalling squad construction".

Alone you MIGHT be able to get away with the full-back inadequacies but it's not alone. It all starts adding up when you look at the squad's imbalances.
 
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The excuses about injuries from Tisdale and the rose tinters are painful. The defense has been carp since Edwards left his coaching role. Even then we looked a bit shaky, but not this bad.

One season a few years back we conceded something like 22 goals from set pieces, when Coles was about.
Surely the vast majority of supporters want him sacked or resign now. Rose tinters ? He is absolutely indefensible . Absolutely . How in the name of Christ can anyone confidently say this man is the manager is the one you want for the future? With 5 home defeats in a row. One go. Possible (sorry probable) relegation scrap. Home win record? Football is the here and now and judged on the next game .
Just please go Tisdale and brighten all our days.
 

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Has he still not f-ecking gone yet,blokes a joke:mad:
 

rp42

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Jason. I really can't be bothered with your comments any more. I'm afraid i might get a lifetime ban if i reply to you. I'm getting more frustrated with the ostriches. Farewell old chap.
He doesn't have to watch the home games so will back Stale all the way.
 

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We do have injuries but then it was him who decided to sign TAH, go into the season with no recognised right back and then waste a right winger, in on loan, in that position.

His summer recruitment was dreadful and the budget is no excuse. He simply signed the wrong players for the positions which needed to be filled.
Nail truly on head. If anyone can't see that then they are beyond help.
 

rp42

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Just read his post match comments. Its because of his inexperienced defence. Not because he recruited bsadly in the summer. Also its difficult because Notts County played 3 at the back AND had the cheek to play with midfielders who protect the back four.

Also he hasn't got enough time in the week to train the defence and sort out the set piece problems.
On Saturday he said this http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37473758 and then he spouts they ain't good enough? which is it to be??
 

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A full back won't win or lose you the league. It's your spine and, depending on how you set up further up, the width in attack that gets you there.
Spine ? We're spineless
 
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