Exeter City Women

[Ash]

You must be one of the sexist brigade that feels women shouldn’t play football as equals and if anyone speaks up for women’s football then you have to name call. Very sad.

How would you feel if city Male players felt women should play at SJP ?

I just wonder if you have ever considered the financial benefits it could bring the club.

Oops I forgot how crap we are in marketing & thinking ahead.

Be fair - I've insulted you on plenty of threads, not just this one. I think your opinions on all topics are *****, not just Exeter City Women's team.

 

[IndoMike]

Danny
It's not about gender, it's about quality!
I'm watching the Lionesses right now but probably wouldn't watch City's women's team unless it was a special occasion, so am I sexist? Calling people sexist at every opportunity just makes you seem a right tw+t and you're not doing the women's team any favours.

 

[Grecian2K]

Genuine question for Danny.

So many things WRONG with everything at ECFC under the current ownership model at present - well at least in YOUR not so humble view.

But, at least, our club is democratically run - thankfully there is such a thing as THE TRUST rather than a private oligarchic plaything - and, every so often, the opportunity arises to be elected by the TRUE supporters if they agree to your own manifesto. One which has been posted as nauseum (literally) on here.

So, if you feel so strongly, why not "put up or shut up" next time the Trust elections come around? If you are so right, I'm sure you'll win overwhelming support...or, possibly NOT?

 

[Dannyred]

Genuine question for Danny.

So many things WRONG with everything at ECFC under the current ownership model at present - well at least in YOUR not so humble view.

But, at least, our club is democratically run - thankfully there is such a thing as THE TRUST rather than a private oligarchic plaything - and, every so often, the opportunity arises to be elected by the TRUE supporters if they agree to your own manifesto. One which has been posted as nauseum (literally) on here.

So, if you feel so strongly, why not "put up or shut up" next time the Trust elections come around? If you are so right, I'm sure you'll win overwhelming support...or, possibly NOT?

It’s a closed shop? I have known a couple people go on the trust with a different direction to most but not been able to make any changes.

I think if your happy supporting a league 2 club then fine, if you are local and want to see success then we now have a choice to watch the chiefs or like most kids in Exeter support a bigger team.

The club has no ambition

 

[Dannyred]

Danny
It's not about gender, it's about quality!
I'm watching the Lionesses right now but probably wouldn't watch City's women's team unless it was a special occasion, so am I sexist? Calling people sexist at every opportunity just makes you seem a right tw+t and you're not doing the women's team any favours.

No Mike As a FAMILY Club it about giving Every Boy/Girl the same football opportunity if they work hard and reach the first team.

The quality in Women’s football is decent and the money coming into it is huge.

 

[Grecian2K]

It’s a closed shop? I have known a couple people go on the trust with a different direction to most but not been able to make any changes.

Aw diddums. Surely if your strongly and incessantly tedious whines won enough support you and your cronies would be shoe ins to deliver our club to your dreamed of new Jerusalem.
So, either put up...or, preferably SHUT UP.

Or, even better, just toddle off to your beloved Shandy Park, clad in whatever premier League shirt is your choice of the day and proudly wearing your faintly racist "red Indian" head dress and waving your little plastic tomahawk.

I suggest that, for the majority of City fans, you wouldn't really be missed.

 

[Dannyred]

Aw diddums. Surely if your strongly and incessantly tedious whines won enough support you and your cronies would be shoe ins to deliver our club to your dreamed of new Jerusalem.
So, either put up...or, preferably SHUT UP.

Or, even better, just toddle off to your beloved Shandy Park, clad in whatever premier League shirt is your choice of the day and proudly wearing your faintly racist "red Indian" head dress and waving your little plastic tomahawk.

I suggest that, for the majority of City fans, you wouldn't really be missed.

You mean join the huge number of them who no longer bother going up to SJP or posting on here.

 

[Grecian2K]

You mean join the huge number of them who no longer bother going up to SJP.

If you are going to try and quote "statistics" at least try to check the FACTS first.

Under trust ownership attendances have tended to have been at least as high, if not higher, than in most previous regimes. Even during our darkest time.

In fact, despite not quite making the playoffs last season's average gate was nearly 500 up on the previous season.

How about some ACTUAL average attendance numbers for you to suck on
Under Trust Ownership
2018-19 L2 9th 4,480
2017-18 L2 4th 4,004
2016-17 L2 5th 4,166
2015-16 L2 14th 4,008
2014-15 L2 10th 3,873
2013-14 L2 16th 3,701
2012-13 L2 10th 4,142
2011-12 L1 23rd 4,474
2010-11 L1 8th 5,393 (Equal highest finish ever)
2009-10 L1 18th 5,832
2008-9 L2 2nd 4,939
2007-8 Conf 4th 3,705
2006-7 Conf 5th 3,627
2005-6 Conf 7th 3,756
2004-5 Conf 6th 3,389
2003-4 Conf 6th 3,669
Prior to Trust Ownership
2002-3 L2 23rd 3,763 Relegated
2001-2 L2 16th 3,313
2000-1 L2 19th 3,313
1999-0 L2 21st 3,014
1998-9 L2 12th 3,154
1997-8 L2 15th 3,990
1996-7 L2 22nd 3,014
1995-6 L2 14th 3,442
1994-5 L2 22nd 2,482
1993-4 L1 22nd 3,350
1992-3 L1 19th 3,268
1991-2 L1 20th 3,645
1990-1 L1 16th 4,285
1989-90 L2 1st 4,858 CHAMPIONS - UNBEATEN AT HOME
1988-9 L2 10th 2,678
1987-8 L2 22nd 2,505
1986-7 L2 14th 2,657
1985-6 L2 21st 1,976
1984-5 L2 18th 2,349
1983-4 L1 24th 3,376
1982-3 L1 19th 3,235
1981-2 L1 18th 3,861
1980-1 L1 11th 4,554
1979-80 L1 8th 4,575 (Other Equal highest finish ever)
1978-9 L1 9th 4,410
1977-8 L1 17th 4,858
1976-7 L2 2nd 4,616 Promoted
1975-6 L2 7th 3,265
Indeed, one has to go back HALF A CENTURY to the 60s and before for a time when gates, at our current level, regularly held above even 4,000 - apart from the last four years that is.

 

[Saint James]

Don't take the bait, Don't feed the troll shush everyone and it will die

 

[Grecian2K]

So what key FACTS might this avalanche of numbers suggest?
I'd humbly suggest
1) The Trust era has possibly created more engagement of paying supporters (albeit slightly so)

2) "Success" moving up a level does NOT guarantee overly huge increases in attendance (even when graced by the presence of "giant" visitors like Leeds, Saints, Sheff U, Charlton etc)
Does this small revenue increase cover the extra costs of trying to maintain long-term success at these higher levels? Punters don't seem to flick, even at the best of times.
And witness the subsequent financial crises that has followed EVERY promotion - and subsequent relegations - when we have been saddled with a L1 payroll on L2 finances.
Is it best to live within ones means rather than bankrupt oneself chasing ephemeral."Championship glory"?
Not a "lack of ambition", just realism. Just ask the fans of the likes of York, Stockport or, latterly, Yeovil just for starters.

3) Even though it be "humble" - and in you view - an embarrassment SJP, even in the best years, has rarely been filled and, overall, even then is barely over half full.
Does this warrant squandering of precious finances on a real-estate vanity project?

Still Danny person - never let the TRUTH get in the way of a good prejudice eh?