City and Chiefs same owner.

[i8cornwall]

The club is fine as it is. Just needs a bit more ruthlessness from MT and him learning from his mistakes and we are on the right path. No need for a new owner to come in and leave us in the sh*t.

You mean like the Trust did a few years back?

I’m only playing devils advocate here, ultimately I couldn’t careless now, nothing will change at city so pointless moaning about it.

 

[fred binneys head]

I couldn’t careless now, nothing will change at city so pointless moaning about it.

Why do you think that? Loads has changed over the last 15 years.

Unless you want to be reliant on one incredibly wealthy individual, and are then lucky enough to find one, success will always be a slow ride (as it is for all other clubs), you should enjoy the smell of the flowers along the way.

 

[Rosencrantz]

And yet Wycombe were able to find a rich American willing to splash the cash despite being arguably an even less attractive proposition than us; they were apparently losing 600 grand a year, had no academy producing young players to sell on for a profit and ownership of the ground was retained by the trust. I remain convinced that fan ownership of football clubs for the benefit of the local community is the way forward but the way football continues to be run is making it harder and harder for that to be compatible with on-field success.

Rob Couhig had a dream: Wycombe Wanderers agree new owner

ROB COUHIG HAD A DREAM… After a few months of discussions and debate and a two-week one-week voting process, it was confirmed on Wednesday 23rd October that American businessman Rob Couhig is to become the new majority owner of Wycombe Wanderers. He achieved the required 75% of the vote from...

d3d4football.com

Interesting that it was through a South Devon firm who specialise in finding suitable clubs for interested investors and that he originally was going to take over Yeovil but talks broke down at a late stage when they coincidentally got relegated from L2. He did take fond memories of Yeovil, right up to Wycombe it seems.

He also states in that article that he has not got the money to compete in the Championship and wants the club to be sustainable after initial investment. So like Hallet down the road but without the fan bit. After owning minor baseball teams and "soccer" teams in the US it's hard to find his motivation for getting involved in English football as was clearly his ambition.

Still, it suits both parties for now at least. The key will be coping with the fallout of Championship football and hopefully they don't go chasing rainbows that the supporters trust will have to sweep up once again.

From that article it seems the Wycombe trust had a hard time in generating income and run up £2.2 million debts that the new owner has cleared. They also abandoned their youth program in 2012 as it was too expensive. You can see why they were seeking the takeover. I am not sure how much power 25% shareholding and two out of six board members, the others being appointed by the owner, will ultimately give them but they should get good access to information and an input.

 

[i8cornwall]

Why do you think that? Loads has changed over the last 15 years.

Unless you want to be reliant on one incredibly wealthy individual, and are then lucky enough to find one, success will always be a slow ride (as it is for all other clubs), you should enjoy the smell of the flowers along the way.

I was 10 when the trust took over, so to be honest I’ve nothing to compare these last 15 years to.

Is what it is, like I’ve said before if your like me or younger then city are offering less and less reasons every year for you to turn up and spend your hard earned and support the club.

 

[Rosencrantz]

I was 10 when the trust took over, so to be honest I’ve nothing to compare these last 15 years to.

Is what it is, like I’ve said before if your like me or younger then city are offering less and less reasons every year for you to turn up and spend your hard earned and support the club.

Everyone has a different experience. From when the trust took over we had seven consecutive top half finishes topped with a double promotion followed by a relegation survival in L1 and then an 8th place finish in the third tier. As City's history goes, that is a eventful period. Since then a relegation, reconsolidation, with a flirt of taking the eye off the ball, and then four seasons knocking on the door but not getting through it. Can be frustrating.

My experience started with two out of twenty seasons finishing top half, almost going bust twice, finishing bottom of the league and then eventually relegation out of the league. Some call it masochism. Others call it being daft enough to fall for and support a lower league football club.

Then the Trust took over. It's all different context for different experiences.

Having said that I like cricket, F1, snooker and the Tour de France in which little happens except nuance for long periods before you are rewarded with a burst of excitement. It's heading towards that masochism again isn't it?

 

[Hants_red]

I don't know much about the the rugby finances. Does Tony Rowe provides significant amount of money, or is the club sustainable on its own?

 

[Oldsmobile-88]

I don't know much about the the rugby finances. Does Tony Rowe provides significant amount of money, or is the club sustainable on its own?

I believe it’s self sustainable...I recall a interview with Rowe on R5L a couple of years ago where he said the club is run only on the income from the ground & various sponsorships & TV Money.

They make a absolute fortune from just food & drink over the season at Sandy Park.

 

[Hants_red]

I believe it’s self sustainable...I recall a interview with Rowe on R5L a couple of years ago where he said the club is run only on the income from the ground & various sponsorships & TV Money.

They make a absolute fortune from just food & drink over the season at Sandy Park.

I do get the impression that a Saturday afternoon is very little about sport, and all about the consumption of alcohol.

 

[StudentGrecian]

I was 10 when the trust took over, so to be honest I’ve nothing to compare these last 15 years to.

Is what it is, like I’ve said before if your like me or younger then city are offering less and less reasons every year for you to turn up and spend your hard earned and support the club.

I was 5 when the Trust took over. My first season ticket at the park was the relegation season. For me growing up and watching the trust develop overtime you can see they’ve learnt a lot of lessons and seem to be heading in the right direction.

Okay we’ve been stuck in League 2 for a while now, but that’s not necessarily the fault of the trust, we’ve given it 4 good attempts over the last few years and ultimately it’s come down to 90mins three times.
Would the trust have as many detractors if the players were to have stood up to be counted in one of those 3 games?
What the trust hasn’t done, is favoured all out success over the long term stability of the club, which I don’t understand how anyone could want them to?


I guess the question is ultimately do you want success or sustainability, because in football these days it’s hard to get both, when so many irresponsible owners are shelling out millions for success.

 

[grecianstew]

I don't know much about the the rugby finances. Does Tony Rowe provides significant amount of money, or is the club sustainable on its own?

The Rugby Club isn't sustainable on it's own. One of he biggest, best located and most profitable Conference Centres in the land sustains it.