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[SEA Grecian]

It shows how the business plan is totally reliant on producing saleable players...Something we knew, but perhaps not to the extent illustrated..

I think the bigger point is how crazy football finances are. Maybe, if every club wasn't running at a loss we wouldn't have to rely on player sales to be competitive on the pitch.

 

[DB9]

It only gets hairy if you start spending money that you don't have. You simply tailor your spending to your income.

Indeed but that revenue source dries up for a few seasons and you tailor or cut your spending, It doesn't bode well to try and move forward, Also Project 6k is a tough one, Look at Saturday, Just over 5k in the ground, Take out the BR fans and we're left with just 4k+ City fans. It's a huge task and I'm a born worrier.

 

[SEA Grecian]

Indeed but that revenue source dries up for a few seasons and you tailor or cut your spending, It doesn't bode well to try and move forward, Also Project 6k is a tough one, Look at Saturday, Just over 5k in the ground, Take out the BR fans and we're left with just 4k+ City fans. It's a huge task and I'm a born worrier.

That is why it's a good idea to invest in infrastructure rather than just splashing the cash on players. At least if the windfall income does dry up we will already have a completely redeveloped stadium with a decent pitch plus improved training facilities.

 

[DB9]

That is why it's a good idea to invest in infrastructure rather than just splashing the cash on players. At least if the windfall income does dry up we will already have a completely redeveloped stadium with a decent pitch plus improved training facilities.

So we "Invest" in infrastructure but "Splash" the cash on players? Don't get me wrong, The stadium is the best it's ever been and the C&F has plans to really upgrade it which is great and important but all those things won't bring people in if what's on the pitch is constantly L2, If the windfall income dries up we still need to pay players and maintain the upkeep of the ground and training facilities, The pitch improvements won't last forever too. Like I said I'm a born worrier and I do find it hard to marry all the things together.

 

[grecian-near-hell]

So we "Invest" in infrastructure but "Splash" the cash on players? Don't get me wrong, The stadium is the best it's ever been and the C&F has plans to really upgrade it which is great and important but all those things won't bring people in if what's on the pitch is constantly L2, If the windfall income dries up we still need to pay players and maintain the upkeep of the ground and training facilities, The pitch improvements won't last forever too. Like I said I'm a born worrier and I do find it hard to marry all the things together.

Regardless of the league, if the football is attractive and exciting to watch, in an environment that is pleasant to be in, that would surely get more local people in knowing that they are going to be entertained.

Yes higher up the leagues you would get small windfalls when the "sleeping " giants come to visit but it is our core support that we need to improve and it is not just one arm of the club that affects this. The improvements to the Cliff Hill should show new/better quality players we mean business, along with the improvements to the ground and it's facilities. With the better quality players, fingers crossed you get a more entertaining spectacle on the pitch which brings in more core supporters. They are all interlinked and you can't really separate one from the other.

Once the Cliff Hill is improved this should also further impress parents of youngsters looking to make decisions for their child's future. The Cornish club don't and won't have anything near this to offer for development and education of youngsters, again with the better quality youngsters you continue the dripfeed into the first team and give the fanbase the pride of producing "one of our own" into league football, and at the same time looking to continue to manage this income stream. It is all an ongoing process

 

[DB9]

Regardless of the league, if the football is attractive and exciting to watch, in an environment that is pleasant to be in, that would surely get more local people in knowing that they are going to be entertained.

Yes higher up the leagues you would get small windfalls when the "sleeping " giants come to visit but it is our core support that we need to improve and it is not just one arm of the club that affects this. The improvements to the Cliff Hill should show new/better quality players we mean business, along with the improvements to the ground and it's facilities. With the better quality players, fingers crossed you get a more entertaining spectacle on the pitch which brings in more core supporters. They are all interlinked and you can't really separate one from the other.

Once the Cliff Hill is improved this should also further impress parents of youngsters looking to make decisions for their child's future. The Cornish club don't and won't have anything near this to offer for development and education of youngsters, again with the better quality youngsters you continue the dripfeed into the first team and give the fanbase the pride of producing "one of our own" into league football, and at the same time looking to continue to manage this income stream. It is all an ongoing process

Can't agree, Staying in L2 won't bring in enough crowds, Going up won't be a case of the odd windfall due to a bigger club visiting, We get more money through the TV and EFL plus we can charge more for sponsorship etc, The actual media interest would go up etc, Fans watch football to see success on the pitch, You can play as attractive as you like but if you don't go up people won't turn up in enough numbers.

 

[grecian-near-hell]

Can't agree, Staying in L2 won't bring in enough crowds, Going up won't be a case of the odd windfall due to a bigger club visiting, We get more money through the TV and EFL plus we can charge more for sponsorship etc, The actual media interest would go up etc, Fans watch football to see success on the pitch, You can play as attractive as you like but if you don't go up people won't turn up in enough numbers.

Yes you do get more money from TV and other income streams the higher up the leagues you go, and it has been muted that premiershite clubs don't really need crowds due to their "media" income. But at this moment in time we are a league two club that has to plan accordingly to get out of league two to be able to sustain an existence in league one and look to move on from there. Which is why all the factors, Cliff Hill to attract the talent, the academy, the ground and the style of football all apply for this process to be successful. If we can't sustain promotion when it comes then we end up in the mire

Prior to the pandemic we were on an upward trajectory in average crowds, the football was entertaining and we were blooding our youth, yet we remained in league two. Crowds are now back and if Saturday is anything to by then we will be witnessing some more fast flowing exciting football once the squad has gelled. Saturday also showed us that if we don't get results then our crowd numbers will fall, (someone has pointed out on another thread our core support was down a few hundred on the Bradford game presumably due to results and all the negativity about signings) and football is at the end of the day a results business.

Whether it is a good thing that our first three home games are against clubs who will bring the biggest interest supporters wise is questionable as opposed to later in the season, but a couple of good results on Saturday and the following week, with the transfer window closed and all the negativity that has bought then there should be some feel good factor as we move up the table.

We all want promotion but for me not at all costs, one season up only to collapse a couple of season later and you could be in a worse position than when you started (Yeovil)

 

[Red Devon]

Can't agree, Staying in L2 won't bring in enough crowds, Going up won't be a case of the odd windfall due to a bigger club visiting, We get more money through the TV and EFL plus we can charge more for sponsorship etc, The actual media interest would go up etc, Fans watch football to see success on the pitch, You can play as attractive as you like but if you don't go up people won't turn up in enough numbers.

You can also attract bigger transfer fees because you would be selling from a higher level.

 

[jambo]

Not quite as bad as when I saw the Kidderminster Manager head butt Lee Elam on the pitch at Aggborough after we’d won there 2 nil in 2007.

Ah - in fact, he was just leaning in for some top shopping tips, & caught Elam unawares. They made up later, & apparently have just been touting a relaunched "Supermarket Sweep" style daytime tv show to Channel5.

 

[andrew p long]

perhaps not the right thread (!) but to ease DB9's worries about sales drying up, but as well as keeping money back in reserve, we also have a pipeline of possible/likely income from add-ons and sell ons from previous sales. 150k per season for each of the next three years if Aston Villa stay in the Premiership. More money from Chelsea in any circumstance except Ethan staying at Chelsea and playing fewer than three first team games for Chelsea (20% of any sale or loan fee; 250k if he plays three games for Chelsea). Unspecified add ons and sell ons for Chrisene and Stansfield. 10% of any sum over 1.75m if Swansea sell Grimes. That should tide us over until the next sale or two.