Covid in the camp

[jrg333]

Pretty depressing to see cases rising in the UK and Ireland despite our vaccination rates (~90% for one jab; ~70% double-jabbed) when you look at, say, India (home of the Delta variant) with a very low vaccination rate (~8%) whose cases are at their lowest level in 5 months.

What on earth are the vaccinations doing if our cases are rising higher, during the height of summer, than in India where the new strain actually emerged!? I know two double-jabbed people who've caught Covid for the first time this month. Are the vaccinations encouraging people to take more risks or are they simply as ineffective as the stats imply?

 

[Boyo]

Pretty depressing to see cases rising in the UK and Ireland despite our vaccination rates (~90% for one jab; ~70% double-jabbed) when you look at, say, India (home of the Delta variant) with a very low vaccination rate (~8%) whose cases are at their lowest level in 5 months.

What on earth are the vaccinations doing if our cases are rising higher, during the height of summer, than in India where the new strain actually emerged!? I know two double-jabbed people who've caught Covid for the first time this month. Are the vaccinations encouraging people to take more risks or are they simply as ineffective as the stats imply?

UK cases are massively down from the mid-July peak, although slightly up in the last week. The below is an interesting graphic that demonstrates the effect of vaccines on hospitalisation rates. In essence they are not perfect but they are making a significant difference. India only got their rates low again by having a hard lockdown. We're the first country to rely heavily on vaccines rather than other strict measures.

 

[Grecian Max]

Pretty depressing to see cases rising in the UK and Ireland despite our vaccination rates (~90% for one jab; ~70% double-jabbed) when you look at, say, India (home of the Delta variant) with a very low vaccination rate (~8%) whose cases are at their lowest level in 5 months.

What on earth are the vaccinations doing if our cases are rising higher, during the height of summer, than in India where the new strain actually emerged!? I know two double-jabbed people who've caught Covid for the first time this month. Are the vaccinations encouraging people to take more risks or are they simply as ineffective as the stats imply?

It's due to waves, it's natural for viruses to rise and then reaching a threshold before a dip, hence India's levels

 

[grecIAN Harris]

Nombe and Key have been named on the BBC website, hence why they didn't play yesterday

 

[Grecian2K]

Regarding Accrington & the EFL. Nothing new under the sun there.

Still recall (with anger) when we were fined back in the 70s for "failing to fulfill" a fixture against Scunthorpe due to medically certified injury/illness.

And £5,000 then was considerably more punitive than £7,000 in "today's money".

 

[jrg333]

It's due to waves, it's natural for viruses to rise and then reaching a threshold before a dip, hence India's levels

Not natural for cases of respiratory viruses to rise during the summer, though.

Last year we had a big dip during the summer and a big fall during the winter, which is in line with every other respiratory virus ever recorded. This year, despite all the vaccinations, a very different pattern is emerging and cases are actually rising during the warmest, sunniest period of the year: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101947/coronavirus-cases-development-uk/

This shouldn't happen with any respiratory disease, let alone one that ~90% of people have been 'vaccinated' against.

 

[iscalad]

Regarding Accrington & the EFL. Nothing new under the sun there.

Still recall (with anger) when we were fined back in the 70s for "failing to fulfill" a fixture against Scunthorpe due to medically certified injury/illness.

And £5,000 then was considerably more punitive than £7,000 in "today's money".

Bob Lord.. TW@T

 

[Boyo]

Not natural for cases of respiratory viruses to rise during the summer, though.

Last year we had a big dip during the summer and a big fall during the winter, which is in line with every other respiratory virus ever recorded. This year, despite all the vaccinations, a very different pattern is emerging and cases are actually rising during the warmest, sunniest period of the year: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101947/coronavirus-cases-development-uk/

This shouldn't happen with any respiratory disease, let alone one that ~90% of people have been 'vaccinated' against.

Most of the country spent last winter under significant restrictions or full lockdown. But for those measures, the number of cases would likely have been off the scale. The numbers we are seeing this summer with only minor restrictions in place are significantly lower than what would have happened last winter. That's the impact of the vaccine.

Incidentally, cases are decreasing. We peaked in July at over 50k and now we're down below 30k.

 

[Super Ronnie Jepson]

Isn't Camp Covid where US presidents hold summits with other world leaders?

 

[Grecian2K]

It is at least somewhat reassuring that new-signing Sam's sudden absence is "only" due to the dreaded C-bug and not a chronic footballing related injury (or an aversion to plastic pitches)