Politics Today

[elginCity]

My hope is that a generational change to politics occurs in the UK over the next 20 years and a party, other than the classic current main three parties, emerges with a social and environmental agenda, which captures the interest of today's young adults.

I share that hope. With the diminishing influence of print media, the increasing social/environmental awareness of the young through social media, the young England squad being in the vanguard, these are the voters with a big future and it's not looking so bright. Rather than a new party, the Greens might come to the fore, as they have in Germany and elsewhere, or even Labour, being seen (and believed) to speak for 'the many', but there's work to be done there.

Most people wouldn't tolerate being lied to by anybody, be it their own child, a friend, a vicar, a doctor, their boss or manager or a local councillor. However, Tory MPs and their loyal foot soldiers tolerate it from our nation's leader, from within the 'mother of parliaments', and occasionally he becomes even more popular as a result. It's truly a sad state for this country to find itself in.

 

[tavyred]

Those MPs were bright enough to understand that a GE wouldn't get rid of Johnson. They were right. The people still bought his lies and they still disliked Corbyn.

They had the opportunity as principled MP’s to end the premiership of what they like to tell us is an alleged racist liar. They chose not to for political gain.
To many of us at the 2019 GE, the pivotal issue was not the ‘lies’ of BJ, it was the bigger lie propagated on the electorate by the Labour Party as regards Brexit.
Perhaps the reason for the lack of cut through on BJ’s character is that the public remember that lie and think in the big scheme of things it doesn’t compare with Labour’s big lie on Brexit.

 

[angelic upstart]

What was the lie labour did Tavy?

 

[DB9]

What was the lie labour did Tavy?

Sorry for butting in but Labour's 2017 manifesto said they would honour the referendum and said that even after losing that election but as time went on Corbyn and Co tried to stop it from happening with wanting 2nd ref etc, Hence why the Parliament between 2017-19 was one of the most disfunctional in history IMHO, Nothing got done at all.

 

[tavyred]

Cheers DB.
Labour’s Brexit lie is still reverberating around English politics now it has to be said. The Tories are even still gaining council seats from Labour such was the monumental feck up by Corbyn and his crew on Brexit.
I see ‘Mr 2nd referendum’ Starmer according to one polling company has just recorded his lowest ever net approval rating.
The biggest lie in recent U.K. political history won’t be forgotten easily.

 

[angelic upstart]

Thanks gents. I'd totally forgotten that labour had that in their manifesto! That whopper was more like an Adam Richman meal than some limp thing from burger king.

 

[elginCity]

Lost count of the years the Tory party has governed and therefore been in power. Yes, in power.

The majority of people wanted Brexit, deal or no deal, and it’s now been delivered. By a serial liar, still supported by the people.

What the flyin feck has Jeremy Corbyn got to do with a debate on the current state of the nation and the ongoing support of a serial liar as leader of said nation ? What is the relevance ?

 

[DB9]

Lost count of the years the Tory party has governed and therefore been in power. Yes, in power.

The majority of people wanted Brexit, deal or no deal, and it’s now been delivered. By a serial liar, still supported by the people.

What the flyin feck has Jeremy Corbyn got to do with a debate on the current state of the nation and the ongoing support of a serial liar as leader of said nation ? What is the relevance ?

AU wanted to know what Tavy meant and whether you like it or not Corbyn has to come into the reckoning as he was Labour leader through that time as was a big political figure in the Parliament of 2017-19, You can't explain anything to do with Brexit without the main protagonists. As of Dec 2019 Brexit is the Tories and they have to deliver a successful Brexit as they promised, It is on their heads and watch, No one elses.

 

[tavyred]

 

[elginCity]

You can't explain anything to do with Brexit without the nail protagonists.

Explain the ongoing support of a serial liar as our leader, would you ? A lot of people are perplexed by it, thanks.