UK Lockdown

[Alistair20000]

Back in Sep - ‘Glum’ ( or was it ‘Glummer’ ) predicted 50k new cases a day in Oct, and turns out it’s 52k instead (ONS). Wildly optimistic he might have been, but it was hardly dubious data.

Our ‘Leader’ appears to have disappeared once again.

Odd that figure Elgy. I have read 24,405 reported cases yesterday on the Dashboard and nothing close to 50,000 reported cases a day since the Glum Brothers rolled out their charts. 50,000 by 13 October was what they said. As they are being controlled by the serially inaccurate modeller Neil Ferguson and his mates at Imperial College no surprise they are wrong again.

 

[elginCity]

Tav, Germany, Denmark and others temporarily closed their borders WITHIN Schengen. Decent of you to worry about the remaining Polish plumbers though, I'm sure they'd manage for a couple of months.

Here's a thought - we could always work with Ireland for mutual benefit ? Worked well in the past before we shot ourselves in the foot.

 

[Grecian2K]

Isn’t another national lockdown stated Labour policy?

I think you'll find that the support was for a two or three week "circuit breaker" (ideally to have been over an extended (?) school half term) rather that a full month's clamp down.
Still, to paraphrase yourself, "that horse has now bolted". With infections still surging - and apparently now the previously cossetted SW is showing the highest rise in "r number" it will be interesting to see what policy is agreed upon and implemented.
(Although the Daily Heil has already pronounced the full month lockdown almost as fact...so it must be true.)

 

[elginCity]

Odd that figure Elgy. I have read 24,405 reported cases yesterday on the Dashboard and nothing close to 50,000 reported cases a day since the Glum Brothers rolled out their charts. 50,000 by 13 October was what they said. As they are being controlled by the serially inaccurate modeller Neil Ferguson and his mates at Imperial College no surprise they are wrong again.

Not according to official SAGE group/ONS ...

Covid spreading faster in England than 'worst-case scenario', documents show

Infection levels in England are about four times higher than the government's worst-case winter plan.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[tavyred]

Tav, Germany, Denmark and others temporarily closed their borders WITHIN Schengen. Decent of you to worry about the remaining Polish plumbers though, I'm sure they'd manage for a couple of months.

Here's a thought - we could always work with Ireland for mutual benefit ? Worked well in the past before we shot ourselves in the foot.

NZ have closed their borders not temporarily, but for the foreseeable future Elgy, that’s what you have to do get zero-Covid. A totally untenable policy for the U.K. to adopt I would suggest.

 

[tavyred]

I think you'll find that the support was for a two or three week "circuit breaker" (ideally to have been over an extended (?) school half term) rather that a full month's clamp down.
Still, to paraphrase yourself, "that horse has now bolted". With infections still surging - and apparently now the previously cossetted SW is showing the highest rise in "r number" it will be interesting to see what policy is agreed upon and implemented.
(Although the Daily Heil has already pronounced the full month lockdown almost as fact...so it must be true.)

Fair point.
I don’t however expect Labour to block or play politics with another national lockdown.

 

[RedPaul]

Johnson to grace our screens at 4pm.

Think I will stick to Soccer Saturday.

 

[elginCity]

NZ have closed their borders not temporarily, but for the foreseeable future Elgy, that’s what you have to do get zero-Covid. A totally untenable policy for the U.K. to adopt I would suggest.

I do take your point on that, Tav. Taiwan has also shut down its border, South Korea is open but DO insist on travellers undergoing a 2 week quarantine (misinformed in my earlier post).

I'm not convinced this half-arsed mitigation approach is going to prove any more beneficial to the economy in the long game. A lot hinges on the timing of a vaccine, if indeed there is one. At least with the NZ/Taiwan approach a lot more of us get to live our lives in the meantime- while accruing a greater burden of debt for our kids, admittedly. We once shut down the economy for over 6 years during our grandparents time, and since recovered.

 

[Grecian2K]

Johnson to grace our screens at 4pm.

Get the drinks in quick lads.
It's going to be a long, dry, No-beer-vember.

 

[Hermann]

Due to move house a week on Monday. Going to be a bit of a sticky wicket if that is put on hold