Politics Today

[Alistair20000]

But what were you promised? May's deal? Johnson didn't like that. Johnson's deal? Farage didn't like that. Corbyn's deal? Yet to be discussed..

A large family decides to leave Exeter and go and live somewhere else. There's lots of reasons for this - it's not what it was, the Council's too left wing, the houses are too expensive, there are too many students or, most commonly, the family feels stuck in a rut and wants a change of scene. But a sizeable minority of the family want to stay in Exeter so they have a vote on it. It is narrowly decided that they should leave, so start looking for somewhere to go.

No-one really knows where to begin. Some want to stay within easy travelling distance of Exeter and some want to move much further away. Some want to go and live deep in the countryside, others want to be by the sea, some fancy a small town in Devon while others want to move up country. While this discussion is going on a lot of people are saying "Why can't we just stay in Exeter". Other members of the family are saying they don't care where they go as long as they just get the move over and done with.

Eventually they decide to move to Tavistock. No-one likes this very much, but at least it's a decision. By this time Granny, who was keen to move out of Exeter, has died and the teenagers have grown up and are wondering why they are being uprooted to move to Tavistock. An increasing number of family members wonder why they can't think again about staying in Exeter, or at least look at the implications of moving to Tavistock. But the answer is no, the decision has been made - we promised ourselves we'd move out of Exeter, so we're moving to Tavistock, end of. Anyone who disagrees is spitting in the face of this family...

How many of the family actually voted in the move to Tavy referendum art ? 37%

 

[IndoMike]

Ian Blackford

We ⁦@theSNP⁩ have lodged an amendment to the withdrawal bill declining a second reading in the absence of the Scottish Parliament giving consent. Our right to determine whether we remain EU citizens must be in our hands not ⁦@BorisJohnson

 

[elginCity]

Not been a good week for Arlene.

 

[tavyred]

Ian Blackford

We ⁦@theSNP⁩ have lodged an amendment to the withdrawal bill declining a second reading in the absence of the Scottish Parliament giving consent. Our right to determine whether we remain EU citizens must be in our hands not ⁦@BorisJohnson

Gesture politics, the SNP’s forte.

 

[arthur]

BTW, nothing more contemptuous in this debate than a free and fair referendum result being denied, so spare me the lecture please.

AKA "end of". How very democratic..

 

[arthur]

How many of the family actually voted in the move to Tavy referendum art ? 37%

Of those that voted, 52%. The family of this parable would have to be very large in order to illustrate this in round humans

 

[IndoMike]

Gesture politics, the SNP’s forte.

Yes, partly that. But you can totally understand their perspective. As you welL know, Scotland voted to REMAIN.
If you were Scottish, you would probably agree with the Scots position. Ask Braveheart.
So, according to your theory that the referendum was binding, shouldn't the Scots be allowed to stay in the EU? It is a nation with its own parliament, after all.

 

[tavyred]

Yes, partly that. But you can totally understand their perspective. As you welL know, Scotland voted to REMAIN.
If you were Scottish, you would probably agree with the Scots position. Ask Braveheart.
So, according to your theory that the referendum was binding, shouldn't the Scots be allowed to stay in the EU? It is a nation with its own parliament, after all.

<sighs>
U.K. referendum, UK decision.
Scotland’s membership of the EU is not a devolved matter.
Come on Mikey, this is basic stuff.

 

[IndoMike]

<sighs>
U.K. referendum, UK decision.
Scotland’s membership of the EU is not a devolved matter.
Come on Mikey, this is basic stuff.

N. Ireland voted to remain, didn"t it?

 

[Mr Jinx]

Rory Stewart, like an increasing number of MPs, is currently running rogue and this is part of the problem. There is Rory and his ilk on one side ready to stand down with their minds on other things (i.e. London Mayor) and on the other hand you have the more extreme party switchers e.g. Wollaston. They are united in one thing though and that's their reluctance to have a by election, and little wonder as to why that is.

In short, these MPs no longer fully represent the ticket the were elected on. A GE is required so that they can align more with their current thinking, but a lot of them (if not all) unsurprisingly voted against having a GE at this juncture. Basically the whole thing is fücked mainly thanks to Clegg and his bloody FTPA. There is a reason we never had fixed terms before, and this is it.