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[Alistair20000]

I agree with this, but it's a very complex situation. One that no govt is willing to take on.

I would start by ensuring education is top of the agenda for the next generation coming through. Slightly longer school days, Stay at school until 18 as a guarantee.

O.K. as long as education sweeps up something akin to the old style craft apprenticeships and we stop the nonsense of sending too many youngsters to waste 3 years at university on a course that delivers no value to them nor the economy generally.

A really good living to be made as a plumber or electrician these days instead of leaving uni with a criminology degree and ending up carrying drinks in Wetherspoons

 

[Alistair20000]

All I will say Al, if you are a motorist and we have a Labour government, you'll be a cash cow, frustrated at every turn, whilst being told it's for the green and greater good.

First it was LTNs then Ulez. With Labour in charge they'll be no stopping it spreading country wide.

We will all be cash cows in all we do in life with Rachel in number 10 Jinxy.

Their spending plans (which already do not add up) will be blown apart once the non Doms fook off and they find "closing tax loopholes" delivers far less than the dopey forecasters project.

We is fooked

 

[DB9]

We will all be cash cows in all we do in life with Rachel in number 10 Jinxy.

Their spending plans (which already do not add up) will be blown apart once the non Doms fook off and they find "closing tax loopholes" delivers far less than the dopey forecasters project.

We is fooked

Aren't we cash cows now with the highest taxation since gord knows when?

 

[Alistair20000]

Aren't we cash cows now with the highest taxation since gord knows when?

Yep. We have a so called Tory government practising socialism but taxes will rise even further when we get Sir Keith & Rachel: the real socialist thing

 

[Spanks]

Yep. We have a so called Tory government practising socialism but taxes will rise even further when we get Sir Keith & Rachel: the real socialist thing

What we’ve had for 31 of the last 44 years hasn’t worked, so we must double down and do more of it.

 

[Alistair20000]

What we’ve had for 31 of the last 44 years hasn’t worked, so we must double down and do more of it.

So what 13 years did it work since 1979 ?

 

[angelic upstart]

Sorry, I meant to say "You will own nothing, and you will be happy".

You'll own nothing and be happy - Wikipedia

It's a basic extrapolation of the concept to mean that you will have no freedoms.

Maybe I can't read properly, but the link you've provided is waffling on about not owning stuff (the irony being that loads of motorists already lease their cars) doesn't really mention freedom. But none of it makes sense in the context of what I was saying. I was just being happy that the lazy, feckless motorist class might have to get of their fat arses and walk to the chip shop once was a week was a good thing.

 

[angelic upstart]

O.K. as long as education sweeps up something akin to the old style craft apprenticeships and we stop the nonsense of sending too many youngsters to waste 3 years at university on a course that delivers no value to them nor the economy generally.

A really good living to be made as a plumber or electrician these days instead of leaving uni with a criminology degree and ending up carrying drinks in Wetherspoons

Absolutely. Everyone should have the opportunity to learn to a decent standard and have the opportunity for a decent job. It's the least a country should offer it citizens. Arguably, most of the rest of it is nonsense comparatively.

 

[Jason H]

Maybe I can't read properly, but the link you've provided is waffling on about not owning stuff (the irony being that loads of motorists already lease their cars) doesn't really mention freedom. But none of it makes sense in the context of what I was saying. I was just being happy that the lazy, feckless motorist class might have to get of their fat arses and walk to the chip shop once was a week was a good thing.

But shouldn't the lazy, feckless motorist class have the right to drive to the chip shop if they so wished? The point is that if you start to restrict freedoms using salami tactics, eventually you find you have none.

 

[angelic upstart]

But shouldn't the lazy, feckless motorist class have the right to drive to the chip shop if they so wished? The point is that if you start to restrict freedoms using salami tactics, eventually you find you have none.

They do have the right, they just have to go the long way. The right to clean air is much more important and beneficial to all, than Sharon driving to her hair appointment in a bloody 4x4, rather than walking for 7 minutes.


P.S. If it's salami tactics you're worried about, you must be livid with the recent change to our human rights by the govt in their new restriction of protest.