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elginCity

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Jonathon Gullis promotion - now Tory Deputy Chairman replacing the defector Lee Anderson.

When I first heard, thought it a joke, but seems not.
 

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Jonathon Gullis promotion - now Tory Deputy Chairman replacing the defector Lee Anderson.

When I first heard, thought it a joke, but seems not.
That'll learn em
 

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Look who’s concerned about Immigration, 65+, leave voting Tories. Aww bless

Not a significant issue for any other cohort.

Very interesting indeed.
 

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Anything they say will be jumped on by the Tories. I’m expecting them to have a mature approach to working with our European friends and will probably rejoin the Dublin Agreement.

Hopefully the heat can be taken out of this non issue over time with a more measured approach.
SKS floated the idea of cooperating with the EU a few months back and abandoned the idea within hours such was the public reaction.
If by some miracle the flights to Rwanda happen before the GE, expect another spectacular u-turn by Starmer and Labour adopting the policy pretty pronto.
 

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SKS floated the idea of cooperating with the EU a few months back and abandoned the idea within hours such was the public reaction.
If by some miracle the flights to Rwanda happen before the GE, expect another spectacular u-turn by Starmer and Labour adopting the policy pretty pronto.
It’s tricky for him no doubt. I suspect their manifesto will have some tough talking in it just to tame the Tory attacks during a GE campaign. We’ll see a different outcome once they hold the reins.

Still, it’s only old leave voting Tories that are so worked up about it.
 

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SKS floated the idea of cooperating with the EU a few months back and abandoned the idea within hours such was the public reaction.
If by some miracle the flights to Rwanda happen before the GE, expect another spectacular u-turn by Starmer and Labour adopting the policy pretty pronto.
Art would I'm sure argue that the public reaction will be less important in the first year of Starmer's tenure as PM than in the year leading up to an election. Perhaps this will throw up a few surprises.
 

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Still, it’s only old leave voting Tories that are so worked up about it.
If you don’t mind MDG I’m going to bookmark this comment and perhaps return to it in the near future.😎
 

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Art would I'm sure argue that the public reaction will be less important in the first year of Starmer's tenure as PM than in the year leading up to an election. Perhaps this will throw up a few surprises.

There is a school of thought coming from commentators saying that Labour’s honeymoon period will be shorter than normal such are our problems, like illegal immigration.
I do wish them well though, no one wants our government to fail.
 

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There is a school of thought coming from commentators saying that Labour’s honeymoon period will be shorter than normal such are our problems, like illegal immigration.
I do wish them well though, no one wants our government to fail.
It’s not illegal to seek asylum Tavy.
 

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There is a school of thought coming from commentators saying that Labour’s honeymoon period will be shorter than normal such are our problems, like illegal immigration.
I do wish them well though, no one wants our government to fail.
Your concern about irregular migration and your sincere belief that this is the issue that will cause the new government to become unpopular very quickly is certainly shared by others but is not, I dare to suggest, electorally significant.

There is a hard core in this country who think like you do, who remain troubled by immigration and have never liked the EU. I would guess it constitutes about 30% of the electorate, but they will almost always vote for the Conservatives or parties to the further right or, quite often, not vote at all.

Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have to find a way of sharing out the remaining 70% in such a way that the 30% don't have influence beyond what their numbers deserve...

You and Jinx would no doubt assert that my 30% figure should be nearer 60%. We can then bang on about alternative universes
 
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