Happy Birthday Paul Gascoigne

[Stuffy]

Sad to see such talent frittered away.

 

[Grecian_Jay]

Gazza was a flawed genius. Maybe going to United instead of Spurs would have served him better. Whatever you may think about Gazza the person, on the pitch we haven't had anything like before and have had nothing since. He could walk into any side from any era without the blink of an eyelid.

Le Tiss was more talented.

 

[Avening Posse]

A true great, all a bit sad it ended the way it did, let's hope he doesn't get too p___d tonight and end up on page 7 of the Mirror

 

[Stuffy]

Le Tiss was more talented.

Gascoigne's number of caps and goals tell a different story.

 

[Grecian_Jay]

Gascoigne's number of caps and goals tell a different story.

No it doesn't.

Is Chris Smalling better than Steve Bruce?

 

[Stuffy]

No it doesn't.

Is Chris Smalling better than Steve Bruce?

The merits Smalling or Bruce has nothing to do with it!

And yes it does.

 

[Grecian_Jay]

The merits Smalling or Bruce has nothing to do with it!

And yes it does.

I'm merely pointing out that you can't just say "he has more caps so is better". I can say Le Tiss has more appearances and goals in domestic football than Gazza so is therefore better.

 

[grecIAN Harris]

The fact you're just plain wrong regardless is the only thing you need to worry about in either case. Le Tiss was quality, there's no getting away from that, but better than Gazza? Never in a million years. Le Tiss could do things that would make you go 'wow', Gazza only had to turn up to make you go 'wow'. He could dominate games from start to finish in a way that Le Tiss could only dream about

 

[Grecian_Jay]

The fact you're just plain wrong regardless is the only thing you need to worry about in either case. Le Tiss was quality, there's no getting away from that, but better than Gazza? Never in a million years. Le Tiss could do things that would make you go 'wow', Gazza only had to turn up to make you go 'wow'. He could dominate games from start to finish in a way that Le Tiss could only dream about

We'll agree to disagree Greasy (no surprise there). Le Tiss delivered much more than Gazza, if he had been given the same chances as Gazza then he would have been the best player this country had produced.

 

[PeteUSA]

As you say, he won the FA Cup with Spurs in 91, but he should have been sent off for the disgraceful tackle he made on Gary Charles, but ended up doing himself more damage . Referee Roger Milford was caught out a bit by the Spurs trainers as they ran on with a stretcher towards Gazza. One yelled out to Milford (who was shaping up to administer a deserved second yellow + red): "Its okay ref, he done for"! Milford bought that, and totally lost sight of the fact that Spurs should have been reduced to 10 men, whether Gazza was badly injured or not! A bad mistake in a top game by the usually reliable Bristol official.

1991 but he'd been stretchered off after 15ish minutes after injuring his knee trying to cripple Gary Charles of Nottingham Forest, should have been sent off for that tackle!