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Northampton Town v Exeter City - Matchday Thread

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Doesn't matter where the '1st contact' is made. If there's a foul in the box, it's a pen. The ref plays advantage for the man being fouled, not vice versa.
I agree, initial contact was outside the box but Sweeny followed up with a second kicking.
 

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Sweeny missed with that one but got him with the other foot inside the box!
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Doesn't matter where the '1st contact' is made. If there's a foul in the box, it's a pen. The ref plays advantage for the man being fouled, not vice versa.
How can the ref think quick enough to decide that something less than half a second earlier is advantage or not? The foul that knocks the Northampton player out of his stride pattern and balance is outside of the box. He isn't in control of his body to have any kind of advantage. Sweeneys secondary swipe us of no relevance
 

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Looks to me like Sweeney tries to trip him outside the area, then takes another swipe which catches clearly in the area - Stupid whichever he was trying..

Missed the game on iFollow yesterday, but Bowman not getting on the end of the chance to make it 1-1 looked a bad miss.

I put this game down as a defeat, so as far as I am concerned this weekend we theoretically gained two points, as Plymouth didn't beat Cambridge.
Your glass is half full : we also lost 3 points to Crewe and Swindon. But, nevermind, with several home games coming up we have a chance to overtake them again.
 

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Just seen the MT interview total honesty again bang on with his Jayden Richardson comments the only attacking player to make an impact for us all afternoon.
So it's fair to ask (in retrospect) why leave the substitution so late?
 

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How can the ref think quick enough to decide that something less than half a second earlier is advantage or not? The foul that knocks the Northampton player out of his stride pattern and balance is outside of the box. He isn't in control of his body to have any kind of advantage. Sweeneys secondary swipe us of no relevance
The player was running into the box ahead of his marker (Sweeney). Seems like he had the advantage to me. Sweeney clearly had an intent to bring him down, which he did. It was borderline or just inside the box. It was a fair penalty to give and if it happened to us we would be really farked off if no penalty was given.
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The player was running into the box ahead of his marker (Sweeney). Seems like he had the advantage to me. Sweeney clearly had an intent to bring him down, which he did. It was borderline or just inside the box. It was a fair penalty to give and if it happened to us we would be really farked off if no penalty was given.
All the time refs have to make decisions about advantage : it's nothing new
In most fouls where there is contact the recepient is in front. That's hardly rocket science. Sweeney's first kick quite clearly wasn't border line, the ball was still outside the box. Because it was outside the box it wasn't fair to give a penalty. It's not like you can use the argument that he was clean through on goal. The first foul has removed any advantage as he has no control over his body. His legs are gone, he's already going down and he isn't going to be able to do anything with the ball. The second foul just helped him on his way. Look at exeips picture of the second foul, his arms are already out trying to regain his balance and ball appears to be between his feet. Where is this advantage you speak of? It doesn't exist because of the impact of the first foul.
 

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Post deleted. I tried to post a freeze frame of the first contact but didn't work.
 

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In most fouls where there is contact the recepient is in front. That's hardly rocket science. Sweeney's first kick quite clearly wasn't border line, the ball was still outside the box. Because it was outside the box it wasn't fair to give a penalty. It's not like you can use the argument that he was clean through on goal. The first foul has removed any advantage as he has no control over his body. His legs are gone, he's already going down and he isn't going to be able to do anything with the ball. The second foul just helped him on his way. Look at exeips picture of the second foul, his arms are already out trying to regain his balance and ball appears to be between his feet. Where is this advantage you speak of? It doesn't exist because of the impact of the first foul.
I just got to the end of your first sentence and already know your talking tosh. You say it's not science, but actually you have no data at all that in the case of most fouls
the "recipient" is in front, and what's got to do with it anyway?
You're making something quite simple into something worthy of the best drama in order to try to prove your point. Sweeney had a bite, and then a second bite as the attacker moved into the box. Nothing sensational. Many refs would have given the pen, as we would have expected if the situation was vice versa
 

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I just got to the end of your first sentence and already know your talking tosh. You say it's not science, but actually you have no data at all that in the case of most fouls
the "recipient" is in front, and what's got to do with it anyway?
You're making something quite simple into something worthy of the best drama in order to try to prove your point. Sweeney had a bite, and then a second bite as the attacker moved into the box. Nothing sensational. Many refs would have given the pen, as we would have expected if the situation was vice versa
It's logical. If he isn't in front of the defender then he has no need to foul him. I'd like to see that put in front of VAR and see what they come up with. If you can be offside by the length of your big toe then I'm damn sure you can be fouled by more than a balls width outside the box and not have a penalty given against you. If he stays on his feet and has control of the ball I'd agree with you but it's pretty obvious that neither is the case so the foul, not the secondary swipe, is outside the box.
 
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