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[Alistair20000]

For one so determinedly grounded in reality, you seem to be letting your personal dogma cloud your response on this one.

You and @tavyred are both very excited about the prospect of reducing corporation tax to entice multi nationals to those shores.

There is already a recruitment crisis amongst businesses (and public sector) in the UK, which is certainly impacting on economic growth.

Whatever your very strong views about ‘lazy feckers’ and comedy uni courses, any new jobs created by an influx of new multi nationals would need filling.

Legal immigration is the obvious solution. Is that a trade off you’d be happy with?

What I would like to know is why as many as 9 million people aged 16-64 are not in work. Are they all Tavys who can retire early and sufficiently comfortably on their pensions ? Too sick to work ? Too idle ?

 

[BigBanker]

What I would like to know is why as many as 9 million people aged 16-64 are not in work. Are they all Tavys who can retire early and sufficiently comfortably on their pensions ? Too sick to work ? Too idle ?

Thinking about many mum's with kids below school age may be a good start.

As things stand, it's not beneficial to work if you have a kid under school age unless your salary is well north of the median.

Perhaps we should put people off having kids? That should help our demographics....

 

[Grecian2K]

What I would like to know is why as many as 9 million people aged 16-64 are not in work. Are they all Tavys who can retire early and sufficiently comfortably on their pensions ? Too sick to work ? Too idle ?

It might not have affected your own Ivory (Tebburn) Tower but, as far as I know, state pension age was never 64 (even for men). For decades it was 65 until, a few years ago, it was slipped up to 66.
So why are you excluding the 64-66 demographic in your sweeping statement?
Please at very least try to keep up old boy.

 

[BigBanker]

What I would like to know is why as many as 9 million people aged 16-64 are not in work. Are they all Tavys who can retire early and sufficiently comfortably on their pensions ? Too sick to work ? Too idle ?

1.6 million students at sixth form/college doing that education thing

Another 1.5 million at university learning how to be your doctor/lawyer/stand up comedian.

Plus mums.

Your 9 million will dwindle very quickly if you get out of your 'lazy nation' mindset.

 

[tavyred]

Labour market data, economic inactivity, long-term ill-health and long covid-19

Around 20% of the working-age population is currently economically inactive, and this is a particular problem during a time of labour shortages.

www.lexology.com

 

[Mid Devon Grecian]

1.6 million students at sixth form/college doing that education thing

Another 1.5 million at university learning how to be your doctor/lawyer/stand up comedian.

Plus mums.

Your 9 million will dwindle very quickly if you get out of your 'lazy nation' mindset.

Independently wealthy people must be a significant. A friend of mine retired at 53 as did his wife. They’d had no kids saved hard and were able to retire.

Also cascade of wealth coming down from parents who were beneficiaries of property ownership and gilt edged final salary pensions.

 

[BigBanker]

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Labour market data, economic inactivity, long-term ill-health and long covid-19

Around 20% of the working-age population is currently economically inactive, and this is a particular problem during a time of labour shortages.

www.lexology.com

Thanks Tavy.

Need to cure that long term sick, don't we?

 

[BigBanker]

So what would they live on ?

Foodbanks and wheeling & dealing?

 

[tavyred]

Thanks Tavy.

Need to cure that long term sick, don't we?

We do.
Interesting stat within that figure that shows more people in their 20’s are citing illness as a the reason they cannot work than those in their 40’s. Issues around mental health being the driver apparently.

 

[tavyred]

Looks like ‘stop the boats’ Sunak could be going into a GE with record levels of cross channel migrants arriving here.
What a Plum!