Tisdale taking over 200k of the budget.....

[fred binneys head]

MJP, Pete, as usual is right. If rose tinters like you are certain the many on this thread IN THE KNOW are 'lying' then you are either a) an idiot, or b) happy to act like a large bird with your head firmly entrenched. Lob as many insults around as you like matey, I couldn't care less. You're a little like a raving zealot in as much as your way is right, and everybody elses's is wrong.

Think about the possibility you might be wrong. Is it not even slightly plausable?

Bit harsh, like most football club forums Exeweb has a history of people posting Shiite with no evidence, all MJP is saying is he doesn't believe anything until he is satisfied it is true and a few people like you who claim to know 'facts' or being 'in the know' isn't enough for him. It's enough for some people but not him.

You have been pretty bullish about several 'facts' in your post 197 but I have know idea who you are, who you know at the club, whether you worked there, whether you have seen documentary evidence, etc - you are just someone called jr1871 who has 'information' and who thinks anyone that doesn't believe what you are saying is an idiot. Maybe you are the one who needs a bit of empathy with other's views?

 

[crocks]

Jr - what you have said is everything that I rather suspected. City are in the deep smelly stuff. There are two problems; one - the current regime cannot or will not alter the status quo, and will keeping grabbing hold to the pig trough for all they are worth.....and if they do go, I suspect that there will not be the groundswell of support and will to save the club again.

Apart from a couple of thousand die hards, there is a general apathy towards the club not helped by the indifference shown by the council, who, probably, would rather the club folded paving the way for re-development.

 

[jr1871]

Hi Fred, yeh, maybe a bit harsh. I don't like being called a liar though. I work in the industry as a consultant for 2 clubs, one of my close colleagues is an agent (with 2 players on City's books) I know people on the trust, and am close friends with one of our players. So I do 'hear' reasonably accurate stuff from time to time. I'm worried, and I'm frustrated that some people just won't hear a word said against the current situation.

I know people are working hard, very hard in a couple cases, but its the old pushing a stone uphill thing. MJP I apologise I was harsh. I think you owe me one back for the liar comment and we are quits

 

[fred binneys head]

Hi Fred, yeh, maybe a bit harsh. I don't like being called a liar though. I work in the industry as a consultant for 2 clubs, one of my close colleagues is an agent (with 2 players on City's books) I know people on the trust, and am close friends with one of our players. So I do 'hear' reasonably accurate stuff from time to time. I'm worried, and I'm frustrated that some people just won't hear a word said against the current situation.

I know people are working hard, very hard in a couple cases, but its the old pushing a stone uphill thing. MJP I apologise I was harsh. I think you owe me one back for the liar comment and we are quits

Fair play jr, you've just gone up one or two steps on the 'Exeweb credibility' ladder

 

[richard_portland]

Jr1871 I am trying to reconcile the various credible bits of information. Northants Grecian stated on either this or one of the other budget threads that the final turnover for 2011/12 was just over 3m. I appreciate that with relegation was lost 350k through league monies due to going down and crowds dropped by 400 odd but we also got 300k in transfer income.

If we are going into this season with just over one million playing budget we are either not using 55% of turnover or only turned over around two million or a bit more. Unless northants is wrong I am trying to work out how we can have dropped so far. Does your information point to turnover being closer to 2.5m than 2m? Appreciate other clubs have people pumping money in and are able to offer more than us but if we have a budget of around 1.25 m then that allows for an average salary of around 50k which must surely gives us a chance to attact better than the worst players around?

 

[rightwing]

Jr1871 I am trying to reconcile the various credible bits of information. Northants Grecian stated on either this or one of the other budget threads that the final turnover for 2011/12 was just over 3m. I appreciate that with relegation was lost 350k through league monies due to going down and crowds dropped by 400 odd but we also got 300k in transfer income.

If we are going into this season with just over one million playing budget we are either not using 55% of turnover or only turned over around two million or a bit more. Unless northants is wrong I am trying to work out how we can have dropped so far. Does your information point to turnover being closer to 2.5m than 2m? Appreciate other clubs have people pumping money in and are able to offer more than us but if we have a budget of around 1.25 m then that allows for an average salary of around 50k which must surely gives us a chance to attact better than the worst players around?

Richard, there are other factors to be taken ito account in assessing the player budget. Whilst the budget can be based on 55% of past turnover, in some circumstances that might not happen. For example did we incurr some high unforseen additional costs in 2012 - 13 or have the the gates committee already assessed that crowd numbers will fall even further this season. It's alright having the format to be allowed to spend more, but we must also have the current ability to pay. Net current liablities are rising in every annual balance sheet. Are there bills coming up shortly that have to be paid, to the detriment of the playing budget?

 

[Grecian1966]

MJP, Pete, as usual is right. If rose tinters like you are certain the many on this thread IN THE KNOW are 'lying' then you are either a) an idiot, or b) happy to act like a large bird with your head firmly entrenched. Lob as many insults around as you like matey, I couldn't care less. You're a little like a raving zealot in as much as your way is right, and everybody elses's is wrong.

Think about the possibility you might be wrong. Is it not even slightly plausable?

JR, for about two-thirds of your post you had me in the palm of your hand and then you got greedy! As soon as you started bandying figures around from other clubs like you are Deloitte's specialist football advisor then it became all too obvious that you are having a bit of fun without a clue. I can certainly believe the figure for Tiz but then you have just used that and claimed you have some specialist knowledge. Not good enough i'm fraid - notably when you ask if it is plausible? If it was you wouldn't even say that :$

 

[PeteUSA]

JR, for about two-thirds of your post you had me in the palm of your hand and then you got greedy! As soon as you started bandying figures around from other clubs like you are Deloitte's specialist football advisor then it became all too obvious that you are having a bit of fun without a clue.

You're not wrong, a couple of years ago when I last questioned jr's accuracy about whats happening at the club, he admitted that he worked in close proximity with a football agent, in a situation where he cant help but overhear what his close associate is up to football wise! Based on the scant information you can obtain in such a situation as his, I recommend you politely ignor him. The last time he gave us the gen on what was supposed to happen signings wise, I believe he had Dean Bowditch down as a dead cert to join City! He also f*cked up re: Cureton's future as I
recall.

 

[jr1871]

Sorry Fred, to have upset you, I just stated as I had seen and heard. TBF I did say I was no specialist in Div 2 management salaries, and the figures I have quoted came from my agent friend and were all bandied around mainly just a few weeks ago. I'm I'm not an expert at all. I hear some stuff, I suspect some is right, some wrong, and some in the middle. All I can do is faithfully reproduce what I hear, previously, some has been on the money, some not. But it it is not over-egged..

Just chatted to my agent pal (he sometimes rants when I post on here) and he reckons PT is the highest paid Div 2 manager, and would never replicate his salary elsewhere, though in part due to the state of the nation. Have a good Sunday all.

 

[elginCity]

jr is going up and down the credibility ladder like a whore's drawers.