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[Alistair20000]

In other news, it's not looking very good for the growler.

Unless Sue Gray can step in, I think she's toast.

She was only doing what quite a lot of people do but, if you're going to throw stones, you need to make sure your council house is not made of glass.

I am not so sure about this.

If possible Plod will want to close the file.

I thought some professor had advised that alleged electoral register offences must be prosecuted within one or two years. The CGT issue is down to HMRC.

Ange may get off but there is a lot about her actions that sound decidedly dodgy.

 

[Mr Jinx]

And I see the hapless Sunak is cementing his socialist credentials by relying on Labour to get his legislation through the HOC.

They all love a bit of nanny.

 

[arthur]

You’d expect me to say this, but I’m not sure the Labour Corbyn experience is being repeated by the Tory party in the same way.
Corbynism obviously had no wide appeal with the electorate as evidenced by the 2019 GE result. The battle in the Tory party is IMO one borne out of a belief (one that I share) that there is a latent patriotic social conservatism in Britain that can be tapped into for great effect if you want to win elections. It isn’t far right or emanating from a cesspit but as I suggest a ‘locked in’ feeling by a considerable amount of decent and ordinary Brits who want immigration controlled and thus reduced and also people who are not wedded like the progressives to the agenda sometimes described as ‘woke’.
I mistakenly thought the vehicle for this social conservativism would be BJ’s Tory Party, that ended badly. It remains to be seen where these voters finally end up, if anywhere at the next GE.
They ain’t going away though.

As I've said before, your latent patriotic social conservatism might appeal to about 30% of those who vote. That's hardly "to great effect". The electorate is far more diverse than the pages of The Dailly Mail would have you believe. There is no "silent majority" and I would question if there ever was.

 

[Spoonz Red E]

Hilarious that some people deem anyone a loon if they veer just a couple of steps from the dead centre.

Having put up with 'loony left' as a lazy term for decades I'm all for spreading the love around.

Of course, now it's the 'radical, communist far left' as exemplified by that long time apparatchik Joe Biden.

 

[arthur]

As I've said before, your latent patriotic social conservatism might appeal to about 30% of those who vote. That's hardly "to great effect". The electorate is far more diverse than the pages of The Dailly Mail would have you believe. There is no "silent majority" and I would question if there ever was.

Not to mention the fact that the electorate is evolving demographically. Generation X (1965 -1980) is probably the last one to buy into your concept of "patriotic social conservatism" and not that many of them do anyway. Millennials (1980 - 1995) and those even younger would struggle to even understand what you're talking about

 

[arthur]

I am not so sure about this.

If possible Plod will want to close the file.

I thought some professor had advised that alleged electoral register offences must be prosecuted within one or two years. The CGT issue is down to HMRC.

Ange may get off but there is a lot about her actions that sound decidedly dodgy.

The police are very reluctant to prosecute for breaches of electoral law iirc. When was the last time a case was successfully prosecuted? Something to do with UKIP in Kent perhaps? I may be wrong...

 

[Grecian2K]

Millennials (1980 - 1995) and those even younger would struggle to even understand what you're talking about

Not just the "Millenials" art.
I'm almost 70 and even I struggle to even understand what Tavares & Co are ranting on about most of the time.

 

[Alistair20000]

I'm almost 70 and even I struggle to even understand what Tavares & Co are ranting on about most of the time.

The failures of a socialist education system G2K ?

P.S. I thought you were much older than that

 

[Grecian2K]

The failures of a socialist education system G2K ?

P.S. I thought you were much older than that

Hardly Al. My state school "socialist education" taught me to all question and mistrust the lies fed by "the establishment".
And, sadly, my early years were blighted by the ar$e end of a succession of Tory (mal)administrations in every system. And not just the education one either - I've still never forgiven thieving Chancellor Anthony Barber for imposing Purchase Taxes on my pocket money sweets.
PS. As for my age I'm delighted to advise that even as I was entering my first year at Exmouth Exeter Road Infant School you were probably just finishing your final year in the 6th Form at the Tebburn Academy For Young Toffs. (Fees Non Negotiable - although Tax Deductible)

 

[arthur]

PS. As for my age I'm delighted to advise that even as I was entering my first year at Exmouth Exeter Road Infant School

This sentence reminds me of the winning entry in a New Statesman competition, many years ago, when people were asked to compose last lines of books which, once seen, would ensure nobody would want read the rest of the book:

"And so it was, at the age of 5, that I entered the gates of Exeter Road Infant School, and began the next chapter of my life".

Other notable Staggers comp winners:
1. Things you'd never hear them say

• "Of course, we were all communists in those days" (M. Thatcher)
• "Come outside and say that" (M. Gandhi)

2. Unlikely book titles

• "My Struggle" by Martin Amis

That's quite enough