Is the BNP racist?

[mfcrocker]

Yeh, I didn;t mean that in a Pro BNP kind of way, Crediton is a taypical Lib Dem town but I'm still suprised BNP got more than Labour.

Are you really? Everyone utterly hates the Labour party right now - their public support has completely collapsed. It's not an endorsement of the BNP that they finished above Labour, but more a condemnation of Labour.

 

[cameraman]

Cameraman

Why is racialism evil?
Why is it percieved that racism only goes against minorities in modern Britain?
The "kick racism out of fooball" campaign has generally been a failure. Peopel are less overtly racist than they were in the 70's, football jumped on the bandwagon, when the naughty boys stopped being naughty.
Racism in football is a huge problem in Europe, barring Britain, mainly because we are more tolerant.

With regards to your issue and extensive statement. I tend to agree, however, people vote for the party most likely to help them out "on the whole" whilst the major parties continue to allow what has happened in Britain, the problem will continue.

The British empire was amongst the most racist ever known, in fact, I'd suggest they started racism (as it's known today), simply because they/we went to places that were not as "educated" as us, and abused them terribly. Our failure during WW2 ensured we "owed tem" lots, and as a result have always been a moderate forward thinking country since.

Racialism in itself isn't evil. What is, by inference, is that people who are not white are inferior, and this is the emotion that is adopted by political parties(BNP, Fascists, most far right parties etc.) to gain support and ultimate power.

Tribleism--as is the case in Africa and Sri Lanka is evil under a different terminology. Tribleism divides people, and the Imperial British were past masters at using tribleism as a political tool to rule.

I'm sure most people are tired of this thread in a football forum. We could start at the beginning when life began in Africa and we are all descended from Africans and Black.
Darwinism, the origin of the species, and how we evolved, like ather living creatures, according to their geographical position etc.etc.etc.

There was civilisation in China, South America, India and even in letter day Rome, while Northern Europeans were barbarians, but who wants to know.

 

[Hermann]

There was civilisation in China, South America, India and even in letter day Rome, while Northern Europeans were barbarians, but who wants to know.

You missed Egypt and Iraq, the latter being the oldest civilisation in the world...

 

[cameraman]

You missed Egypt and Iraq, the latter being the oldest civilisation in the world...

Thanks for that. There may be others. Anyone care to enlighten us further.

Reviewing my previous post, I was horrified to see my spelling of (Tribalism). Do wish we had a check spell facility on this forum.

 

[Hermann]

Iraq (ancient Mesopotamia) between the Tigris and Euphrates is the oldest. China in the area along the Yellow river, Pakistan along the Indus and Egypt along the Nile come next. Rivers being the important factor in determining where these civilisations sprung up.

 

[Poultice]

The British empire was amongst the most racist ever known, in fact, I'd suggest they started racism (as it's known today),

"started racism" ?

Shirley any form of military conquest involves a degree of racism,I would suggest that the Romans and the Persians got there long before we did, to name but two of the more successful ones. I might also venture to suggest that religious conflict can be a form of racism, I would sight Pizarro as a case in point.

 

[angelic upstart]

"started racism" ?

Shirley any form of military conquest involves a degree of racism,I would suggest that the Romans and the Persians got there long before we did, to name but two of the more successful ones. I might also venture to suggest that religious conflict can be a form of racism, I would sight Pizarro as a case in point.

That's why I put "as it's known today" in some vague attempt to explain racism in it's current form. Lest we forget, racism is a man made problem and is merely a word, so in theory it doesn't exist. It's merely an opinion, much like religion or anything else where feeling can be evoked.

I dunno what you mean about Pizarro, last I heard he went on loan to some German club. Werder Bremen I think.

 

[Poultice]

But the BNP's aim is to "encourage" all brown faces to disappear. If they were in power, how would you feel if friends of yours who's faces didn't fit the profile of the indigenous population were persecuted?

I would argue, and have at length, that it is merely a perception that the primary plank of BNP policy in the future will be to rid the country of coloured people. The views and rhetoric of the leadership cannot be denied but I don't think those views are shared by a large propotion of the people who vote BNP, their opinion is based on living in many areas of London where white English people are heavily discriminated against and preyed upon by a non indigenous majority, they don't want every brown face removed from the country, they just want the scumbags that are already here dealt with, many of them being caucasion, and a brake put on letting any more in, "the major parties" of whatever ilk do nothing about their problems so voting for the BNP is a rational response for them despite what certain f*ckwit Grockles think. Incidentally the emotions involved are very similar to the way that many Cornish think about outsiders who have colonised their home.

I do not believe that the BNP can ever bring the brand of overt racism the frothers seem to hate so much to power in this country, they should have had to put a more acceptable face on it some time ago to gain real popular support and now that bit of the market is too fragmented with even The Christians getting involved.

The Eng Dems are an interesting distraction as RTP suggests, their new figure head having halved his own salary and reduced the number of councillors milking the the budget as a first act, I'll take some of that over the rest of the country and very definitely at Westminster.

As you know I am a racist who would never associate with foreigners so I fail to understand why you would suggest I might have "friends" that would be affected some form of racist persecution.

 

[Red the Paper]

The biggest exponents of the slave trade were Janners; Drake and Hawkins.

Probably every nation with an Empire was racist: Japan, Romans, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Chinese, The Mongols, The Greeks, Egyptians, Germans, Vikings and indeed ourselves

 

[Poultice]

Probably every nation with an Empire was racist: Japan, Romans, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Chinese, The Mongols, The Greeks, Egyptians, Germans, Vikings and indeed ourselves

The Turks also liked a bit of a Pogrom, just ask the Armenians as recently as the last century, and who kicked their kebab munching arses ? Yes our old mates the Serbs, famous for their liberal dealings with their neighbours.

Just seen footage of anti BNP rally in Manchester, in the 30s Oswald Moseley's facists were fronted by thousands of the "working class", today it is a hundred or so muppets who I would suggest probably never have had, nor ever will have a job. Not a "BNP thug" in sight.

Oh the irony, Griffin turned up in a French motor.