Yay or Nay: The Royal Family

tavyred

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H is no more Diana’s son than William is, and every negative issue he faced on the death of his mother his brother had to face as well IMO.
The specific issue that H seems to have struggled with is that his brother has a purpose for his existence and H doesn’t.This seems to have manifested itself into a very destructive and petty sibling rivalry and it’s playing out before us now.
Charlie Boy and his alleged desire to scale back and reform the monarchy can’t come quick enough for me.
 

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Is there any truth in the rumour that Noel and Liam Gallagher are being lined up to play the brothers in the (inevitable) Netflix dramatisation of "Windsorgate"?
 

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There's a deeper reason for Harry's seemingly random complaints and accusations. He lost his mother at a young age and has lived in an atmosphere of avoidance ever since, the truth about her short life being revealed to him in hearsay and tabloid speculation. I have no affection for Harry or royalty in general however when all is said and done I think Charles's disastrous marriage to Dianne that will be seen as the catalyst for massive changes in The Royal Family. Harry is his mother's son and just a commentator on the whole sad outdated institution.
Yep. Strip away all the trappings and it's pretty simple. Over 40 years ago a man loved a woman and she loved him back, but the "rules" said two people who wanted to be together could not be. So instead he married a woman he didn't love, but was good "breeding stock". Everything followed on from that.

As a personal issue for them it's a shame. But as part of a public "constitution" (in many countries, not only the UK) it's laughable. Basically it only works as long as people don't allow themselves to be human. So it doesn't work.

The main culprits aren't Harry or William or any of them, it's the grown-ups who need fairy tales, so they pretend the monarchy is one. Fools.
 

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The main culprits aren't Harry or William or any of them, it's the grown-ups who need fairy tales, so they pretend the monarchy is one. Fools.
If we were designing a system of government from scratch we certainly wouldn’t start with the system we have now. Aside from the very small number of weirdo’s who do view our monarchy as a fairytale most of us realise that putting a King or Queen as our titular head of state is pretty much an accident of history and doesn’t bear any rational scrutiny, but we’re generally happy to carry on with our lives with the status quo in place.
The monarchy only survives if it adapts, which is why the situation you describe re. the Charles, Camilla and Diana couldn’t happen now like it did 40/50 years ago.
My observations on the Harry interview is that he is all over the place on his chosen narrative as evidenced by his willingness to tell his American audience that the RF is racist but is pulling his punches on U.K. TV.
 

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If we were designing a system of government from scratch we certainly wouldn’t start with the system we have now. Aside from the very small number of weirdo’s who do view our monarchy as a fairytale most of us realise that putting a King or Queen as our titular head of state is pretty much an accident of history and doesn’t bear any rational scrutiny, but we’re generally happy to carry on with our lives with the status quo in place.
The monarchy only survives if it adapts, which is why the situation you describe re. the Charles, Camilla and Diana couldn’t happen now like it did 40/50 years ago.
My observations on the Harry interview is that he is all over the place on his chosen narrative as evidenced by his willingness to tell his American audience that the RF is racist but is pulling his punches on U.K. TV.
Maybe the UK interview should be put out on CBS/CNN so they can see what a turncoat he is.

Lets face it he is looking for an audience to pander to his fairytales and at present he has a willing audience in the States clamouring for every snippet of gossip about the Royal Family.
 

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Maybe the UK interview should be put out on CBS/CNN so they can see what a turncoat he is.

Lets face it he is looking for an audience to pander to his fairytales and at present he has a willing audience in the States clamouring for every snippet of gossip about the Royal Family.
They do seem more inclined over there to take his bullcrap at face value, although I see the late night comedy shows are beginning to take the p1ss out of the pair of frauds.
After Harry’s complete volte face on their RF racism claim Piers Morgan is quite rightly now questioning why he was sacked at GMB. He has a point.
 

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They do seem more inclined over there to take his bullcrap at face value, although I see the late night comedy shows are beginning to take the p1ss out of the pair of frauds.
After Harry’s complete volte face on their RF racism claim Piers Morgan is quite rightly now questioning why he was sacked at GMB. He has a point.
It seems that the pair are now rowing back using the term "unconscious bias". But then that term in itself infers racism and so one can only see it as an attempt by them to muddy the waters. This is fairly typical race baiting and needs to be called out as such.
 

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It seems that the pair are now rowing back using the term "unconscious bias". But then that term in itself infers racism and so one can only see it as an attempt by them to muddy the waters. This is fairly typical race baiting and needs to be called out as such.
Yep.
‘Unconscious Bias’ in the race-grifting world is a handy tool it seems when you don’t want to (or can’t) go all in with the R-bomb.
The fact is the Markles were happy to leave the racism claim hang over the RF (and by extension the U.K.) for two years, only when he was asked specifically about it by a British journalist on U.K. TV did he see fit to ‘clarify’ it.🙄
 
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