What date will we be back watching live football at SJP Thread.

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WXF

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Depends if dirty b******s keep on eating things they shouldn't be i guess. My guess is 15 years tops.
You may be right on the time scale, but you're kidding yourself if you think the production of animal products that you consume doesn't present a risk to the spread of zoonotic disease. Most zoonotic diseases come through industrial animal agriculture

An unworthy post FG.

As Egg says it depends on your definition of the "big one." I would categorise the Spanish flu of Post WW1 as a "big one." I would happily accept John William's posts 1,086 & 1,089 as my reply to you.

I am not a Covid denialist either. It exists, it is nasty and I do not much fancy getting it but the survival rate in the UK. is around 97% of reported cases so in practice it is a bit less lethal than that as many cases do not get reported.
We have a good idea what proportion of the population has had the virus from random testing. Down playing covid is a slap in the face for those seriously affected by it. Humanity has avoided many pandemics thanks to medical professionals who specialise in the control and prevention of infectious diseases, some of whom you now join in with dismissing as egoistical
 

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I've worked with animals for over 20 years and have a degree in animal management. So I know all about the risk of zoonoses from industrial agriculture. I am also a pescatarian and dairy free and won't touch anything that's been farmed. Not even farmed fish. Which is also an industry that has a forthcoming recipe for disaster.
 

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Ludicrous post.

How is Ali a Covid denier? He's simply pointing out that Covid, in the grand scheme of things and considering there are worse viruses out there such as ebola, isn't as bad as it could have been and i agree. That's not saying that Covid doesn't exist, it's saying that it could have been far, far worse despite the obvious tragedy of the number of deaths that there have been.
Perhaps I should have said ‘covid minimiser’ rather than ‘denier’. The Ebola outbreak of 2014-2016 caused around 11,000 deaths. That is around half of one percent of the numbers killed by covid, so claiming covid ‘could have been worse’ seems to hugely downplay its effects. And others comparing the death toll to other catastrophic events are missing the point entirely.

The biggest risk to my mind is that those (like the government) who didn’t take the pandemic seriously enough, quickly enough, mean that restrictions to all our lives have continued for far longer than necessary, far more people have died, and the economy has been devastated. Swift, sharp, effective action like in NZ, Australia and much of the Far East - the sort of actions that covid minimisers rail against - has meant those societies are now able to resume pretty much normally. The shambolic, half hearted handling of the pandemic by Johnson and his clowns means that, to return to the thread topic, it will be many more months than necessary before we can get back to watching City live. And much more importantly, many more will die.
 
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