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IndoMike

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Interesting that the RFU gave Saracens the choice of relegation or a forensic examination of their books
Why give them the choice. Imo the punishment should have been :
Forfeit their titles
The fine
Relegation
And if their books revealed fraud or rule-breaking they should be dealt with by the courts or at least relegated two divisions
It seems that this season they are continuing to play using the same salary structure.
 

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Oh, how can you possibly say that Mike.

As the rooger-boogers have been brayingly telling us "Association Oiks" for the last century or more the oval ball code is a true bastion of propriety and gentlemanship, untainted by the evils of "professionalism" and "common thuggery".

How dare you even try to imply that their own pastime might, after all, be similarly infested by venality, mendacity and (borderline) criminality at times.
 

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Would you like some salt or vinegar to go with the chip G2K?

Saracens story is an interesting one and if there's one plus point in all of this it may delay the terrible onset of promotion and relegation ring fencing until the big boys have been promoted again.
 

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Interesting that Chiefs fans are now obsessed with Saracens, is it because this is the only way they will win the premiership again?

They got caught and are taking there punishments, what else do people want?

Don’t read half of this hatred towards Saracens on Bath supports forums or groups.
 

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It's not mere "chips" Swanny. It's a full vat of potato vodka lovingly carefully distilled over the past half century as far as the "gentlemens's game" is concernered.

So no "salt or vinegar" please...although some lemon juice or a further dash of bitters would probably add pleasing flavours.
 

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Interesting that Chiefs fans are now obsessed with Saracens, is it because this is the only way they will win the premiership again?

They got caught and are taking there punishments, what else do people want?

Don’t read half of this hatred towards Saracens on Bath supports forums or groups.
Probably because they lost out more than the other Premiership teams.

I am not interested in Rugby(just follow the local teams fortunes on the news)
A few of my friends are(ST holders & follow away)they say the flagrant flouting of the rules around the salary cap(for years)& the lack of contrition that winds them up.
 

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Interesting that Chiefs fans are now obsessed with Saracens, is it because this is the only way they will win the premiership again?

They got caught and are taking their punishments, what else do people want?

Don’t read half of this hatred towards Saracens on Bath supports forums or groups.
Let us try and answer your points one at a time:

The first time I had heard of a salary cap was that it was in use by American Football so that all teams had a chance to win the league on merit rather than some a super-rich owner making the league predictable (Celtic/Rangers?) by creaming off the best Players. I understand that some teams within the Premiership Rugby League couldn't even afford to spend up to the cap let alone match the monied clubs like Saracens and Bath. Unlike the PRL, U.S. teams caught cheating the 'cap' had their sorry arses handed to them on a plate. In the chiefs case, they found they had to release the popular Santi Cordero as they couldn't keep him and yet remain under the cap. That's why many Chiefs fans are upset with the Saracens who bought in top players with impunity.

In the 2013-14 a whistle-blower let the cat of the bag by complaining that 'certain' teams had exceeded the cap which led to PRL to make investigations that found this to be true. However, rather than the offending clubs being fined, it appears they were given less of the TV monies so that a fine didn't show up in the books. Also, PRL would not name the cheating teams which led to 9 clubs issuing statements saying something like; "***** RFC would like to state that we remained within the spending perimeters". The 3 clubs that issued no such statement were Leicester, Bath and Saracens. The 12 club chairmen then sat down and said in future they would honour the spending cap laid down by the PRL - only we now know this wasn't the case..


Finally, I think Bath fans are well aware that they themselves were once far from squeaky clean.
 

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And Leicester's descent down the league table might well be an indication of their true prowess when being forced to comply with the cap too !
 
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