Ryan Bowman..... (to Shrewsbury)

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Without Bowman theres no way Jay scores 18 goals next season. On that basis, and the fact they scored 32 goals combined, he has to stay.
 

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Without Bowman theres no way Jay scores 18 goals next season. On that basis, and the fact they scored 32 goals combined, he has to stay.
Don’t see how you can say this with total confidence. If Bowman leaves, we won’t know the impact on the team, or indeed Jay, until we see how his replacement(s) fair. Bowman is solid, but nowhere near irreplaceable.
 

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Don’t see how you can say this with total confidence. If Bowman leaves, we won’t know the impact on the team, or indeed Jay, until we see how his replacement(s) fair. Bowman is solid, but nowhere near irreplaceable.
Nothing can be said with complete confidence in football, otherwise bookies wouldn't exist! In terms of Bowmans input with regards to Jay, they both suit each other very well. Succesful teams compete with a solid spine. We've already lost one integral part of that spine in Taylor. Getting rid of Bowman would be another big blow.
 

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Nothing can be said with complete confidence in football, otherwise bookies wouldn't exist! In terms of Bowmans input with regards to Jay, they both suit each other very well. Succesful teams compete with a solid spine. We've already lost one integral part of that spine in Taylor. Getting rid of Bowman would be another big blow.
Your exact quote was “without Bowman there’s no way Jay scores 18 goals next season”. That sounds totally confident to me!!

Taylor was a good player, as to a degree is Bowman, but we have to progress and be better. The players are out there and our recruitment needs to be spot on. Not an easy task, but we can improve.
 

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Being a striker is not just about goals. It's how the team perform as a unit. Bowman is not irreplaceable and i know he missed chances and I'm not suggesting he shouod start but to play every game as a loan striker in a team that had the best goal scored column for most of the season screams that we were doing something right. We should have strengthened in January but that is water under the bridge. Firmino of Liverpool played 36 games with only 9 goals, even with the amount of quality around him. He played 9 times in the CL without a goal. I know it is a difficult league and better quality opposition etc and I am not a Liverpool fan but I bet a lot of their fans would say he is big part of their structure and how they want to play and when the goals are flying in from different sources it goes unnoticed.
A 20+ striker in any team is not very common so racking my brains to see who we might attract that will guarantee that. Something/ someone may have to give to get that player. Will it play a negative part in other areas of our team?
 

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Who gives a toss how many goals he assists? He's in the side to score goals. Nobody will remember whether he set up ten or one hundred but everybody will remember how many he scored.
The Proper Chap has already pointed out that Bowman's goals came in a short spell during winter time. If he didn't score in over 30 other games and hardly ever assisted it's no surprise we didn't get promoted.
He missed a lot of easy chances which cost us points
If you think "assists" are not important then you're living in the past.
We need someone better to get us promoted : to get the goals that will make the difference. I will bet you any money you want that if Bowman plays more than 35 games for us next season we will not get promoted via the autos.
Nobody's blaming Bowman, but some of us want the team improved and to get into Div 1. Bowman is one of the reasons but not the only reason why we couldn't.
 
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