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tavyred

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Most EU rules and regs (inc.the WTD) were carried over and will remain the same until we decide to change them. Trade deals had to be renegotiated because we left the EU (obviously). NI is subject to dispute with the EU and will no doubt get sorted eventually. A deal was done on fishing and will be subject to regular (annual?) renegotiations with the EU as per countries like Norway.
I have no idea what the single farm payment is, but I seem to remember a wish by the Government to link farm subsidies with sustainability. Sounds like a superior plan to the CAP whose raison detre seemed to revolve around keeping small French farmers in the highly lucrative manner to which they’d become accustomed to.
 

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Has Justin Trudeau gone and done a Theresa May?

Not quite 3 weeks till we find out, but early indicators are that he has.
 

tavyred

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The most left wing government since Jim Callaghan continues to surprise, plans apparently to up NI to help pay for social care are in the offing. Problematic in that it breaks a manifesto promise, but as someone who has in the past and continues to be caught in the social care crisis with elderly parents it can’t come soon enough.
Well done Boris.
 

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Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance
 

tavyred

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Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance
Everyone affected, everyone contributes in my view. The low paid already contribute very little in income tax, and isn’t NI traditionally linked to paying for the NHS anyway?
 

manc grecian

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How much national insurance do high earners pay?
 

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Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance
Quite. Past £50,000 pa the employee NI rate suddenly drops by 10%. Surely would be fairer to reduce that differential so those with the most pay a bit more.

Also, as being reported the proposal seems to featherbed the "asset rich" - as opposed to the precariat cash poor.

"Most left wing government" my ar$e, as that good socialist Ricky Tomlinson might say.
 

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Everyone affected, everyone contributes in my view. The low paid already contribute very little in income tax, and isn’t NI traditionally linked to paying for the NHS anyway?
Not correct. NIC does not apply to earnings of employed workers over pension age, nor to self employed profits of folk over pension age. Nor to pension income nor investment income.

Unless of course the scope of NIC is to be widened.

This rise will hit workers to allow the elderly to pass on more wealth to their sometimes undeserving children.

Put up Inheritance Tax instead to pay for this.

No applause from me for Bunter on this one.
 

Alistair20000

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How much national insurance do high earners pay?
Basically 2% once a threshold is reached. NIC bears hardest on lower paid workers.

Here are the details.

 

manc grecian

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Basically 2% once a threshold is reached. NIC bears hardest on lower paid workers.

Here are the details.

Thank you.

All in it together again
 
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