Politics Today

[Hermann]

Any early signs yet of the great Labour fightback in its traditional heartlands art?

Yes. 11% swing in recent polling.

 

[tavyred]

Yes. 11% swing in recent polling.

Really?
I posted a poll a week or so ago which gave Labour a not insignificant lead, I see there’s a couple of polls out this weekend which were giving Labour a small leads but have turned the Tories way again.
I’m not sure there’s the signs of the significant change in public opinion that Labour requires visible quite yet.
With the set piece of the Autumn statement this week, it has the potential at least to be a good week for the government. We’ll see.

 

[IndoMike]

Anyone who treats the polls as an accurate gauge of how people will vote in an election which will not be held for another four years really is in lah lah land. Firstly, even if the election was a month away you couldn't trust the polls , and secondly there is too much water to flow under the bridge for a poll to be truly representative of what will happen in the future . Polls schmolls. Of course, this refers to both parties.

 

[IndoMike]

Regarding, Starmer, it is far too early to say if he would make a good P.M or not.
Let's face it, a lot of people thought Borisse would make a good P.M. () and they were wrong. Until a P.M is in his post and has to face challenges there is no way of knowing. Starmer could make a good P.M or not. At least he is not into cronyism, Dom Juanism, flights of fancy, hiding away from the public, diversion, evadion, hesitancy, self-doubt, Etonism and various other weaknesses. "Solid" is the word, not fake buffoonery and pseudo Churchillian claptrap which the public no longer find inspirational in his case. The public are gradually seeing through the vacuous populism of those leaders who have a nice cover but blank pages.

 

[elginCity]

......The public are gradually seeing through the vacuous populism of those leaders who have a nice cover but blank pages.

71 million yanks and a significant Brexiter core in the UK suggests otherwise, indo. Wishful thinking ?

 

[IndoMike]

TORIES AT IT AGAIN : Tying to pressure the judge in the Elphick case. Tut tut. Don't they ever learn..

"The head of the judiciary has admonished six Tory parliamentarians for seeking to influence a judge overseeing a hearing this week on whether references written in support of the former MP Charlie Elphicke can be made public.

The six wrote last week to senior judges, copying in the judge who will oversee the hearing on Wednesday, expressing concern that “matters of principle” should first be considered by senior members of the judiciary and by parliament........."

 

[Grecian2K]

TORIES AT IT AGAIN : Tying to pressure the judge in the Elphick case. Tut tut. Don't they ever learn..

"The head of the judiciary has admonished six Tory parliamentarians for seeking to influence a judge overseeing a hearing this week on whether references written in support of the former MP Charlie Elphicke can be made public.

The six wrote last week to senior judges, copying in the judge who will oversee the hearing on Wednesday, expressing concern that “matters of principle” should first be considered by senior members of the judiciary and by parliament........."

Perhaps Charlie boy should give Don's mate Rudi a call? He'd sort it for him!!!

 

[IndoMike]

71 million yanks and a significant Brexiter core in the UK suggests otherwise, indo. Wishful thinking ?

I did say "gradually", Elgers. Still another 4 years for the folks to get the message about our Tory pals. According the Chair of the BoE Brexit will cost more than
Covid with NO DEAL. That's more than 200 billon added to the 200 billion already spent. and still counting. He didn't say how much a save face/pretend deal will cost. God knows where the money will cme from.
Re the Yanks - they're are all nutters and like shooting people - special case. Brits are different.

 

[RedPaul]

I did say "gradually", Elgers. Still another 4 years for the folks to get the message about our Tory pals. According the Chair of the BoE Brexit will cost more than
Covid with NO DEAL. That's more than 200 billon added to the 200 billion already spent. and still counting. He didn't say how much a save face/pretend deal will cost. God knows where the money will cme from.
Re the Yanks - they're are all nutters and like shooting people - special case. Brits are different.

The Scots aren't. Populism in a kilt and with face paint writ large.

 

[IndoMike]

Guliani is in fact a waxwork model who melts when he's telling porkies. But did you see that lady Sidney Powell alongside Rudi?
She's a real piece of work. She thinks the Martian sabotaged the election. Wild, man. Even Trump couldn't take that. I bet Cummings wished he'd thought of that when
blathering on about his eye test drive oop North - he could have said he'd been taken away by aliens.