DB9
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Blimey Ramone, Today's game must have been very frustrating for you, You've really gone off on one there my friend
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IndoMike
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Ramone. You really should stop using phrases like "your type". I'm not a"type", I'm me. And you have absolutely no idea what I'm like. You have no idea about my upbringing, my life experiences, my family or anything else.
Not that it's any of your business, but from a young age I was always interested in languages and travel. I studied French, German and Russian A level and worked in a factory in Germany for a year doing very hard physical work before I went to Uni.
My point is I loved travel and experiencing new things. I didn't walk away from Exeter and England, you fool, I just wanted to have fun, travel and learn new things. I also lived in Spain for 12 years. Now I don"t expect you to grasp any of that.
So one of the main reasons I supported our membership of the EU is frankly because I met so many great and friendly people there.
Because you're thick as two planks you don't understand that a love of Europe does not mean a hatred of the UK. I have sisters, a brother, nephews, nieces in Exeter that I am in constant contact with. My wife and I went back to England 1999-2002 but had to return to look after her mother.
She had a lifetime visa for the UK which was invalidated because we lived away for more than 2 years. Now it's difficult for us to go back for various reasons.
So actually you're talking through your arse when you make your ill-judged comments about me.
Regarding the Conservative party, they
don 't give a shyte about the blue collar worker, but they and most of the press are very good at appealing to the lowest common denominator. : racism , little Englander, nationalistic tripe.
I could say a lot more but I won't : your mind is so narrow you couldn't squeeze a pin through it and you just wouldn't get it
Now, have fun over the weekend. Go for a nice invigorating walk on Dartmoor, or that walk along the river at Dunsford or Steps Bridge.
ramone
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Mike you are probably just another left wing inconsequential type who sits in the pub over a half of bitter telling others how to live their lives , A total yawn fest who's life revolves around do as I say not as I do ethos.
There was one of your type sat in the Duke earlier and even though it was fairly busy NO ONE wanted to make use of the other empty seats on his table for fear of being drawn into some nonsensical chat about the world at large.
I've travelled the world met various people's and you know something in all that time I have never come across anyone like you before and quite frankly chuffed to bits for it because if I had for any amount of time I think I would have ended up at the cracker factory.
Please don't tell us anymore about your family as you never know some of them may be reading this and feeling embarrassed , you know like the nan who has to sit in the corner because of pi$$ing herself at family parties … they know you are there but wont actually acknowledge the fact.
There was one of your type sat in the Duke earlier and even though it was fairly busy NO ONE wanted to make use of the other empty seats on his table for fear of being drawn into some nonsensical chat about the world at large.
I've travelled the world met various people's and you know something in all that time I have never come across anyone like you before and quite frankly chuffed to bits for it because if I had for any amount of time I think I would have ended up at the cracker factory.
Please don't tell us anymore about your family as you never know some of them may be reading this and feeling embarrassed , you know like the nan who has to sit in the corner because of pi$$ing herself at family parties … they know you are there but wont actually acknowledge the fact.
ramone
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Yeah sorry dude but sometimes the 0-0 can have this effect on me that and the fact these left wing liberal types still wont get over the fact they lost twice and looking for alternate things to blame on government officials in control.Blimey Ramone, Today's game must have been very frustrating for you, You've really gone off on one there my friend
DB9
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After the week I've had my friend it puts things in perspective, Just agree to disagree, Brexit will happen, Whether it's a success is a different matter and only time will tell, Mind I've seen enough 0-0's at SJP and left frustrated loads, Forget it, it's done, on to the next one
tavyred
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My takeaway from the article was perhaps the changing perception around Europe that the U.K. leaving the EU was not so much about us stupidly leaving the comfort blanket of the EU but rather us embracing the relatively new era of worldwide flexibility around trade. The EU and China are becoming outliers as regards their penchant for protectionism, and if this German fella is right then there is a worry in Germany that they’ve saddled themselves to the wrong horse.
Socialised economies like France’s within the Eurozone are indeed a problem for the wider EZ as France needs their increasingly joined up economies to still spunk up zillions in tax revenue which will put them at odds with Ireland for example who have a different economic model and rely on low tax policies to create their wealth.
We’re leaving at the right time IMO.
IndoMike
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As I said to you before, you have no idea at all about me, you're totally wrong with your comments about me, and you're just making a fool of yourself in making judgements about a person you've never met. I will forgive you for your youth and inexperience
IndoMike
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The funny thing is that he says being around someone like me would drive him crazy, yet he can't resist replying obsessively to.my posts. Think it must be loveBlimey Ramone, Today's game must have been very frustrating for you, You've really gone off on one there my friend
IndoMike
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It's difficult to say, Tavers. One thing is to leave the EU and another is to deal with the thousands of laws and issues which will arise over the following years. And even if we can deal with them there is no guarantee that success will be the result
I believe in the principle that you're stronger in a group than as an individual in terms of world geopolitics, trade etc.
What particularly worries me is that we will often have to swallow our pride with regards to our dealings with the US, China and others. I don't see how we can have the upper hand. Trump likes nothing better than to politically bully those he thinks are vulnerable.
We were a major player for a long time, but post- war our influence has waned. I'm sure that many countries still look to us for moral guidance, but the reality is that the world spins around power and money.
So I fear that we will become a side - show. In some ways that might be a good thing - preventing us from getting involved where we shouldn't be,
Of course there is a lot of young talent and brain -power in the UK, but there is huge talent in Asia and little by little in some African countries, too. And don't forget, we have an aging population whereas the developing countries are youthful, energetic, innovative and entrepreneurial
To be honest, Europe is up against it and we are, too. But imho you can compete better in a block
arthur
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Leaving the EU is not a sensible thing for this country to do. It will make us poorer and lessen our influence. There are no identifiable benefits, a fact born out by it having become something that has to be "got done", rather than anything more positive.
It is happening as the result of an utterly flawed decision making process which started with a referendum where there was no vestige of any plan to vote for or against. ( the Scottish government drew up a 600 page white paper for the 2014 referendum to vote on) It continued with the decision to trigger A50 before HMG or Parliament knew what sort of Brexit it wanted or was feasible. It culminated in a General Election in which the Get Brexit Done parties were in the minority.
All this was presided over by the most mediocre, third rate politicians this country has ever been blessed with, on both the Leave and Remain side of the argument. Virtually no-one has emerged with any credit.
So we're leaving and that's the end of the argument. But please don't let's pretend this is a triumph of informed participatory democracy.
It is happening as the result of an utterly flawed decision making process which started with a referendum where there was no vestige of any plan to vote for or against. ( the Scottish government drew up a 600 page white paper for the 2014 referendum to vote on) It continued with the decision to trigger A50 before HMG or Parliament knew what sort of Brexit it wanted or was feasible. It culminated in a General Election in which the Get Brexit Done parties were in the minority.
All this was presided over by the most mediocre, third rate politicians this country has ever been blessed with, on both the Leave and Remain side of the argument. Virtually no-one has emerged with any credit.
So we're leaving and that's the end of the argument. But please don't let's pretend this is a triumph of informed participatory democracy.