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[Hermann]

What other party would go into coalition with the Tories apart from the DUP?
My guess would be none, so it’s over to Labour in that situation.

It would be interesting if the LDs offered the Conservatives a coalition on condition of a PR referendum.

 

[IndoMike]

Nah, everyone knows it'll be a hung parliament....

Bleddy should be

 

[IndoMike]

The 2nd most likely scenario post the next election IMO is Labour needing a coalition partner or two to form the next government, so rather than hide behind Starmer’s temporarily politically expedient ‘no deals with other parties’ bullcrap it might be useful if you go through the intellectual exercise of what would Starmer actually have to do if he is confronted with the highly possible situation where he needs the help of the SNP to become PM.
if you think SKS will just give up on government you’re deluded.
Game it out DB and if you’re honest with us and yourself, you’ll come to the highly likely conclusion that he will have to strike a deal to become PM.
That being obvious, we then get to the very interesting discussion on what price would SKS have to pay for the cooperation of the independence obsessed, high spending, pro EU and open borders loving SNP?
Any ideas DB?

'Game it out DB and if you’re honest with us and yourself, you’ll come to the highly likely conclusion.....". Cough cough splutter titter..

 

[tavyred]

My point is this is just a scare mongering tactic, it might work, It might not, The SNP want a ref by end of 2023? Even if they get one i think it will be a resounding no by the Scottish people and where would that leave the SNP? As for a high chance of happening, that is your opinion, Go back 12 months, would you have fore seen what is going on in Westminster?

Please send my best wishes to your good lady and hope she recovers fully, As for your ageing dog, He's only doing what us blokes do when we get to a certain age, Whine! (As I'm told by Mrs DB9 often)

Thanks for your best wishes DB.

Of course it’s a scaremongering tactic and the Tories will as before exploit the ‘coalition of chaos’ scenario for all its worth. Quite right too, it’s excellent politics if your seeking to shore up votes in England. It’s also good politics for Scotland too, as many a unionist up there will see a vote for Labour as enabler for an indyref by the back door if Starmer needs the SNP to govern.
I would expect Sturgeon (unhelpfully for Labour) before the next GE to lay out its position in the event of hung parliament what the price of SNP cooperation to be, if that’s not a guarantee of another referendum in that parliament I’d be flabbergasted.

 

[IndoMike]

What other party would go into coalition with the Tories apart from the DUP?
My guess would be none, so it’s over to Labour in that situation.

The National Socialist Party?

 

[tavyred]

It would be interesting if the LDs offered the Conservatives a coalition on condition of a PR referendum.

I think the Tories would prefer a period in opposition to a situation where they would offer that to the LD’s.

 

[Alistair20000]

It would be interesting if the LDs offered the Conservatives a coalition on condition of a PR referendum.

After the 2015 punishment hard to see LDs going anywhere near a coalition with the Tories

 

[Hermann]

After the 2015 punishment hard to see LDs going anywhere near a coalition with the Tories

That's why the price would have to be so high. Likely too high, as Tavy suggests.

 

[Alistair20000]

I think the Tories would prefer a period in opposition to a situation where they would offer that to the LD’s.

Agreed. PR anathema to the Tories.

Best wishes to Mrs Tavy for a full recovery from the surgery

 

[tavyred]

Agreed. PR anathema to the Tories.

Best wishes to Mrs Tavy for a full recovery from the surgery

Thanks Al.
Taking of political anathema, I’m having trouble getting across to DB the fear in England of a Sturgeon reliant Westminster government Al, can you help?