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tavyred

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What price a hammer blow revelation in the Sunday’s tomorrow?
A sort of a coup de grace on BJ’s political career if you will.
 

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The thing that gets me is that Johnson, Rees-Mogg etc are so "Establishment" its scary, They have grown up with a total sense of entitlement all their lives, Thinking they make the rules but not adhere to them. It seems to me there are some double standards as well with voters, Even on here Johnson and Co seem to be the saviour of the UK and they are free to do what they want because they speak well and quote Latin but when Angela Rayner stands up and says what she feels she is treated like some "Gobshite Northener" who can't speak properly. Just total inverted snobbery by people imo, Its like just because Johnson and Co went to posh, private schools it somehow makes them more intelligent and "Better" than us, Well all i can say, You can pay a fortune for an Education but it doesn't make you "Better" because you can quote Latin.
 

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The thing that gets me is that Johnson, Rees-Mogg etc are so "Establishment" its scary, They have grown up with a total sense of entitlement all their lives, Thinking they make the rules but not adhere to them. It seems to me there are some double standards as well with voters, Even on here Johnson and Co seem to be the saviour of the UK and they are free to do what they want because they speak well and quote Latin but when Angela Rayner stands up and says what she feels she is treated like some "Gobshite Northener" who can't speak properly. Just total inverted snobbery by people imo, Its like just because Johnson and Co went to posh, private schools it somehow makes them more intelligent and "Better" than us, Well all i can say, You can pay a fortune for an Education but it doesn't make you "Better" because you can quote Latin.
Yes, it has always struck me as a bit strange that the "working class revolt" that was Brexit (see Claire Fox, Brendan O'Neill and other Revolutionary Communist Party people now ensconced in the new right) was led by this bunch of posh boys who, like Trump over the water, don't give a flying feck for their supporter base.....
 

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The thing that gets me is that Johnson, Rees-Mogg etc are so "Establishment" its scary, They have grown up with a total sense of entitlement all their lives, Thinking they make the rules but not adhere to them. It seems to me there are some double standards as well with voters, Even on here Johnson and Co seem to be the saviour of the UK and they are free to do what they want because they speak well and quote Latin but when Angela Rayner stands up and says what she feels she is treated like some "Gobshite Northener" who can't speak properly. Just total inverted snobbery by people imo, Its like just because Johnson and Co went to posh, private schools it somehow makes them more intelligent and "Better" than us, Well all i can say, You can pay a fortune for an Education but it doesn't make you "Better" because you can quote Latin.
I take it you mean me DB. 😎
BJ’s and the Moggsters antecedence has never bothered me TBH, it bothers other people, usually their political opponents as its used as a handy narrative to use against them, you’ve just done it yourself.
My issue with AR has nowt to do with her working class roots, it’s the fact that I find her brand of left wing firebrand (gobsh*ite) class warrior politics deeply unattractive as a voter, and whisper it quietly so does SKS. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

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I take it you mean me DB. 😎
BJ’s and the Moggsters antecedence has never bothered me TBH, it bothers other people, usually their political opponents as its used as a handy narrative to use against them, you’ve just done it yourself.
My issue with AR has nowt to do with her working class roots, it’s the fact that I find her brand of left wing firebrand (gobsh*ite) class warrior politics deeply unattractive as a voter, and whisper it quietly so does SKS. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I agree with you on Angela Rayner. I see nothing that encourages me to believe she would be any good in playing a part at competently governing the country. And yes, Sir Keith agrees but was politically too weak to marginalise her.

Furthermore, upbringing, social class, education don't come into it. Judge each person on their merits; or lack of merits.
 

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I take it you mean me DB. 😎
BJ’s and the Moggsters antecedence has never bothered me TBH, it bothers other people, usually their political opponents as its used as a handy narrative to use against them, you’ve just done it yourself.
My issue with AR has nowt to do with her working class roots, it’s the fact that I find her brand of left wing firebrand (gobsh*ite) class warrior politics deeply unattractive as a voter, and whisper it quietly so does SKS. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Probably do Tavy :cool: But i think for AR she gets too much on SM because of how she speaks or where she comes from when you have the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg are there because of some "Birth Right" and can get away with things TBH and especially at the moment i think we might need, As you've said "Firebrand Class Warrior" Because those in charge at the moment are those sense of entitled people who thinks the rules they make are not for them but for "The little people" The recent weeks have shown that they really are in it for themselves and not for the greater good.
 

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I agree with you on Angela Rayner. I see nothing that encourages me to believe she would be any good in playing a part at competently governing the country. And yes, Sir Keith agrees but was politically too weak to marginalise her.

Furthermore, upbringing, social class, education don't come into it. Judge each person on their merits; or lack of merits.
Totally agree with you there Al but for AR its not happening, She is being judged by those things you've mentioned.
 
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