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Mr Jinx

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Shell axes North Sea Oil project.

Sturgeon's Scottish Independence dream now in tatters.
 

tavyred

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Don't think it's that simple, many countries are worse off after gaining independence.
In Scotland’s case of course they were considerably worse off before they decided to help create GB a mere 400 years ago, if I recall correctly the Scots were bankrupt in 1707.
Scotland is no victim of colonial conquest BTW, it’s a fully franchised member nation of a country that wouldn’t have existed had Scots not chosen join in with the project that created it.
 

Mr Jinx

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Don't think it's that simple, many countries are worse off after gaining independence.
Scottish Independence financial modelling was done on the basis that much of North Sea Oil would become theirs.

That's why they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They're wanting to be seen as green, but they also need the oil.
 
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Scottish Independence financial modelling was done on the basis that much of North Sea Oil would become theirs.

That's why they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They're wanting to be seen as green, but they also need the oil.
As I said before im looking forward to an independent Scotland, England and Wales and a united Ireland
 

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Welsh independence will not happen in our lifetimes.
The English people voting for an overtly English separatist party is the only threat to the Union that I can see.
If you reside in the three devolved nations of the U.K. the benefits of the Union are clear and obvious.
 

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The English people voting for an overtly English separatist party is the only threat to the Union that I can see.
If you reside in the three devolved nations of the U.K. the benefits of the Union are clear and obvious.
But their freedom is more important than a couple quid extra. This is likely about sovereignty.
 

tavyred

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But their freedom is more important than a couple quid extra. This is likely about sovereignty.
Any imagined grievance by a lunatic minority about ‘freedom and sovereignty’ is dwarfed by the economic reality of the ‘English subsidy’ AU.
Most of them actually view the U.K. as their own country and have no problem with it of course.
 

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Any imagined grievance by a lunatic minority about ‘freedom and sovereignty’ is dwarfed by the economic reality of the ‘English subsidy’ AU.
Most of them actually view the U.K. as their own country and have no problem with it of course.
Actually, they don't. They view their own individual countries as "their country" and the UK as a marriage of convenience that offers mutual benefits. Bit like the EU. :ROFLMAO:
 
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