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Personally I don't particularly have a problem with Scotland leaving the UK if that is what they want. Last time they voted 55-45 to stay, but that could easily change over time. Equally if NI eventually vote to create a united Ireland at some point in the future I have no problem with that. Wales seems very unlikely to vote for independence any time soon IMHO as it has a much larger English population and also is tied in much closer with England both geographically and economically than NI or Scotland. Country borders can change over time, I am sure we can all deal with it.
 

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Personally I don't particularly have a problem with Scotland leaving the UK if that is what they want. Last time they voted 55-45 to stay, but that could easily change over time. Equally if NI eventually vote to create a united Ireland at some point in the future I have no problem with that. Wales seems very unlikely to vote for independence any time soon IMHO as it has a much larger English population and also is tied in much closer with England both geographically and economically than NI or Scotland. Country borders can change over time, I am sure we can all deal with it.
I suspect outside of the England based political establishment, most people in England are reasonably relaxed about the continuation of the Union. If your English what real difference would living in a country of 60 million (England) be from living in a country of 68 million. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Seeing as all three devolved nations are economic basket cases, if England were to go it alone the economic boost would be quite marked IMO.
 

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I suspect outside of the England based political establishment, most people in England are reasonably relaxed about the continuation of the Union. If your English what real difference would living in a country of 60 million (England) be from living in a country of 68 million. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Seeing as all three devolved nations are economic basket cases, if England were to go it alone the economic boost would be quite marked IMO.
You're probably right and the SNP really don't help themselves either, I personally want the union to stay because we're better for it, Each country should promote their own identities but as a union for 300? years, it does work well.

The SNP must be honest with the Scottish people and tell them the real cost of independence, It won't be one day they vote to leave, The next they rejoin the EU and have all this sudden investment, It will be a real struggle I think.

Look beyond the SNP independence policy and domestically things in Scotland aren't the best, like health, education and even crime. These are the things they should concentrate on.
 
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Are we (as English) really though?

The union benefits Scotland much more than it does England, and the powers that be up there are itching to leave.

Let them go if they wish.
Yes we are better for it, Its probably the only thing all 3 major parties agree on, The distribution of money needs to be looked at but in general we are better off as the UNITED Kingdom, A land border would be awful but it would have to be put in if Scotland left and managed to rejoin the EU. Just my opinion.
 

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Are we (as English) really though?

The union benefits Scotland much more than it does England, and the powers that be up there are itching to leave.

Let them go if they wish.
I don't think anyone outside of parliament is that bothered. Presumably Johnson feels it's a bad thing to be the PM who presided over the breakup of the union, for whatever reason.
 

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Circa 40%+ of the Scottish population are desperate for another referendum which is why the poor performance of their Government tends to get ignored at election time.
The current funding arrangements that sees the devolved governments get way more money than England is a disgrace, and for the life of me I cannot understand why the situation is allowed to prevail.
 

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In RaWZ we trust....Amen.
Rachel Reeves must have been reading exeweb a few weeks back,she mentioned my suggestion of abolishing the 5% VAT on home energy 😁😎

That will be awkward before COP26 of course where the paradox of high fuel cost will ultimately cut consumer use & carbon emissions in the UK..
 
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Circa 40%+ of the Scottish population are desperate for another referendum which is why the poor performance of their Government tends to get ignored at election time.
The current funding arrangements that sees the devolved governments get way more money than England is a disgrace, and for the life of me I cannot understand why the situation is allowed to prevail.
Agreed and on the subject of Devolved nations getting English Tax-payers money , what about Northern Ireland & the DUP getting extra cash including £1 Billion pounds!!

 
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