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[tavyred]

A ban on zero hours contracts incoming from The Conservative socialist party then. All these youngsters deliberately working part time

It’s a racket manc, and one of the reasons some U.K. businesses and their representative bodies are squealing like stuff pigs about the loss of cheap EU labour, its because so many of those workers loved the part time/in work benefits lifestyle. Tesco’s and the rest also loved having their workforce subsidised by the state.
1.66 million job vacancies last week in the UK, I’m guessing anyone not wanting a zero hours contract probably doesn’t have to have one at the moment. Surprisingly, quite a few people on zero hours contracts actually quite like them.

 

[angelic upstart]

Apologies, accidental.

 

[angelic upstart]

It’s a racket manc, and one of the reasons some U.K. businesses and their representative bodies are squealing like stuff pigs about the loss of cheap EU labour, its because so many of those workers loved the part time/in work benefits lifestyle. Tesco’s and the rest also loved having their workforce subsidised by the state.
1.66 million job vacancies last week in the UK, I’m guessing anyone not wanting a zero hours contract probably doesn’t have to have one at the moment. Surprisingly, quite a few people on zero hours contracts actually quite like them.

Many of those 1.66 million jobs provide decent pay and progression for 18 year olds with little to no GCSE's ?

I didn't think so either. They're usually shafted with a lower minimum wage which of course is subsidised by the taxpayer. They'll not earn enough to pay NI regardless.

Just out of interest why should the children and young people of today pay for their wealthy, elderly counterparts?

 

[Grecian2K]

No doubt leaked to test the reaction.

Another example of "government by leakage". I expect the craven Cons will be taking due note if the Dailies Heil & Torygraph start throwing their dollies out. Mind you, since the measures affect most adversely the lower-and-middling-paid working folk rather than the rich retirees (who are, after all, still their core support - and readership) I suspect their sycophantic MSM cronies will probably be somewhat muted. The main gripe will almost certainly be that the proposed care-cost ceiling is too high.

At least St Teaser did, once try to address this can of works in he manifesto. That went well didn't it. Hence the lies spread in Johnson's 2019 version.

 

[tavyred]

Just out of interest why should the children and young people of today pay for their wealthy, elderly counterparts?

Who do think pays for their state pensions?

 

[angelic upstart]

Additionally, worth noting that the younger people of today pay 4% more in NI (and employers pay 3% more) they pay historically high VAT rates, council tax bills far higher than domestic rates bills. There's no point in saving as there's no interest rates. The introduction of tiered stamp d

Corporation tax has fell since 1988 by 7% so they'll be very happy with that.

 

[angelic upstart]

Who do think pays for their state pensions?

Exactly. So asking them to pay more, yet again when they already are shafted and have little opportunity of a "job for life" and it's particularly unfair on them.

 

[tavyred]

Exactly. So asking them to pay more, yet again when they already are shafted and have little opportunity of a "job for life" and it's particularly unfair on them.

Shafted?
You don’t believe in the welfare state then?
What would prefer some sort of insurance based system?

 

[angelic upstart]

Shafted?
You don’t believe in the welfare state then?
What would prefer some sort of insurance based system?

The ordinary people of today pay more tax than their predecessors. I'm saying, that it isn't fair to charge them more to pay for older people.

I believe in one tax rate for all,no personal allowances and no in work benefits. As a pay off you lose vat, council tax and most other taxes.

 

[Hermann]

We all know the young are already paying for the older generation. In return they'll work until they're older, get a worse pension, and may not ever be able to own a home. Now they can pay even more. Of course the young don't vote Conservative, so no surprises here.