Politics Today

[angelic upstart]

No, by definition leaving the EU means you have to change your plans.

So what now, what's the plan?

 

[tavyred]

So what now, what's the plan?

.......to address what specific issue are suggesting there isn’t a plan for?

 

[angelic upstart]

.......to address what specific issue are suggesting there isn’t a plan for?

All of it. I don't know any plans for anything. We have the same riles and regs and we appear to be running around the world getting trade deals with countries we once already had trade deals with, I fully understand there's an element of catch up with this as is reasonably expected.
What's happening with NI? The single farm payment? Fishing rights? Working time directive? I may easily have missed the plans for these, but I've no idea what they are.

 

[tavyred]

Most EU rules and regs (inc.the WTD) were carried over and will remain the same until we decide to change them. Trade deals had to be renegotiated because we left the EU (obviously). NI is subject to dispute with the EU and will no doubt get sorted eventually. A deal was done on fishing and will be subject to regular (annual?) renegotiations with the EU as per countries like Norway.
I have no idea what the single farm payment is, but I seem to remember a wish by the Government to link farm subsidies with sustainability. Sounds like a superior plan to the CAP whose raison detre seemed to revolve around keeping small French farmers in the highly lucrative manner to which they’d become accustomed to.

 

[Mr Jinx]

Has Justin Trudeau gone and done a Theresa May?

Not quite 3 weeks till we find out, but early indicators are that he has.

 

[tavyred]

The most left wing government since Jim Callaghan continues to surprise, plans apparently to up NI to help pay for social care are in the offing. Problematic in that it breaks a manifesto promise, but as someone who has in the past and continues to be caught in the social care crisis with elderly parents it can’t come soon enough.
Well done Boris.

 

[manc grecian]

Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance

 

[tavyred]

Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance

Everyone affected, everyone contributes in my view. The low paid already contribute very little in income tax, and isn’t NI traditionally linked to paying for the NHS anyway?

 

[manc grecian]

How much national insurance do high earners pay?

 

[Grecian2K]

Doesn't a NI rise hit the lowest earners in society? Like the people providing the care. Be much fairer to put up the top rate of income tax or crack down on tax avoidance

Quite. Past £50,000 pa the employee NI rate suddenly drops by 10%. Surely would be fairer to reduce that differential so those with the most pay a bit more.

Also, as being reported the proposal seems to featherbed the "asset rich" - as opposed to the precariat cash poor.

"Most left wing government" my ar$e, as that good socialist Ricky Tomlinson might say.