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Basically there are two axis in politics, social and economic. Generally speaking the UK population is more right on social issues and more left on economic issues. Labour is basically left on both axis whereas BJ is right on social issues but has tacked towards the centre on economic issues. This is why he is winning in the red wall seats as he understands that the people who live there are social conservatives but support state intervention on economic matters which he is providing.
Exactly, Those red wall voters don't care about what the twattersphere get professionally offended by, All they want is them and their families lives to improve, To me that is not much to ask for and as soon a Labour and other parties realise that they might have a chance.
 

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Exactly, Those red wall voters don't care about what the twattersphere get professionally offended by, All they want is them and their families lives to improve, To me that is not much to ask for and as soon a Labour and other parties realise that they might have a chance.
Perhaps you could post a list of how Joe Public's life has improved over the last 10 years?
 

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My mother was born in Bradford and I still have family in that part of the world. I can tell you for a fact that the rubbish served up by the left of the labour party is a massive turnoff for these type of normal working people.
 

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Exactly, Those red wall voters don't care about what the twattersphere get professionally offended by, All they want is them and their families lives to improve, To me that is not much to ask for and as soon a Labour and other parties realise that they might have a chance.
But if people's lives do improve, say they buy their own house and earn more money, then the likelihood they'll then go and vote Tory somewhere down the line increases hugely. Ergo, Labour deep down inside likes people staying poor and downtrodden.
 

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Perhaps you could post a list of how Joe Public's life has improved over the last 10 years?
In general more people go onto Uni, Wages in certain trades have improved vastly, More people (Pre Covid) go abroad for holidays, Access to technology is far better and easier, I have no idea why but the amount of housing being built, People are buying them, New builds or not, Houses and estates don't ly empty I'm not saying everyone's lives have all done the above but they are things people care about.
 

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Basically there are two axis in politics, social and economic. Generally speaking the UK population is more right on social issues and more left on economic issues. Labour is basically left on both axis whereas BJ is right on social issues but has tacked towards the centre on economic issues. This is why he is winning in the red wall seats as he understands that the people who live there are social conservatives but support state intervention on economic matters which he is providing.
Spot on.
The Tories current recipe for electoral success.....lean left on economics, lean right on culture.
 
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But if people's lives do improve, say they buy their own house and earn more money, then the likelihood they'll then go and vote Tory somewhere down the line increases hugely. Ergo, Labour deep down inside likes people staying poor and downtrodden.
The closest someone in the Labour Party came to say aspirations are good and we're not all downtrodden in recent years was Tony Blair, Love him or Loathe him he knew what the people wanted and won three times, That is a fact that no one can argue, Since his days for Labour it's been Lose, Lose, Lose, Lose.
 

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The closest someone in the Labour Party came to say aspirations are good and we're not all downtrodden in recent years was Tony Blair, Love him or Loathe him he knew what the people wanted and won three times, That is a fact that no one can argue, Since his days for Labour it's been Lose, Lose, Lose, Lose.
And even Blair yesterday admitted to his old mate Campbell, that he is frightened to say anything about social issues or try or make a joke due to the pile in from the left that follows.

I also note the Tories won 70% of the PCC elections last week.
 
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