Politics Today

RedPaul

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Apr 23, 2004
Messages
5,298
Location
Woking
Quite amazing that Exeweb's Tory boys have suddenly come to the realization that Johnson is a dishonest chancer.
I thought that was common knowledge years ago.
The question is how do we get him and his coterie of dodgy dealers out of harm's way. Hopefully it will gradually sink in
like it has on Exeweb that the people have been sold a kipper, in more ways than one. The age of the populists is dying.
Not in Scotland it isn't.
 

arthur

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Aug 18, 2004
Messages
5,260
Then you should feel heartened art that the same fate will befall Boris as happened to Trump.
I am disheartened by the fact that if it wasn't for Covid, Trump might well have prevailed. But I am heartened that safe boring centrist dad sleepy Joe Biden is proving surprisingly radical once in office.

I can't be heartened by the huge death rate in India, but the silver lining might be that the appalling Modi suffers the same fate as Trump. Ditto Balsanaro.

I am disheartened by the fact that we can't seem to get rid of populist demagogues without the help of Covid. As you never miss an opportunity to gleefully point out, the traditional left has had its day in this country, just as it has in much of Europe. While the left of centre ground reconfigures itself, the populist ideologues can a carry on wreaking havoc unimpeded. This is the tragedy of our age and future generations will look back on this age of institutional stupidity and unpleasantness with incredulity....
 

Rosencrantz

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Jul 12, 2019
Messages
5,753
Location
Tiverton
The real problem is when the vacuum of integrity coincides with the vacuum of talent. This government needs to show more than a modicum of either than they have yet.
 

tavyred

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Aug 23, 2004
Messages
7,377
You mean you haven't come to that realization?
You do get Mike, that most people who vote for him know exactly what he is and vote for him anyway?
As RP quite rightly says, the reason he keeps on winning is the lack of a viable alternative primarily and the fact that his faults IMO are exaggerated for political expediency.
 

arthur

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Aug 18, 2004
Messages
5,260
I remember how ****-a-hoop that wing of the party was when TM got in ahead of the Brexiteers in 2016. They made the mistake of not reading the room (electorally) then,
IIRC the Chief Brexiteer declined to stand, ostensibly because his colleagues (Gove and Leadsom primarily) couldn't trust him but actually because he realised that he would have a Herculean task to perform in getting a completely undefined Brexit through the HoC. So he left it to the rather sad May to do all the heavy lifting while he carped from the sidelines, then came in at the last minute once all the hard graft had been done.

Nothing to do with "not reading the room electorally" - you are living proof of that old dictum, "History is written by the winning side"
 

tavyred

Well-known Exeweb poster
Joined
Aug 23, 2004
Messages
7,377
Are you referring to Johnson, the SNP, or the Scottish fishing industry ..?
Rumour has it that Wee Nippy failed via Twitter to acknowledge SGD yesterday. She had no problem with Paddy’s day, Yom Kippur, St David’s Day and Eid of course.
Civic nationalism my backside.
 

IndoMike

Very well known Exeweb poster
Joined
May 9, 2010
Messages
31,612
Location
Touring Central Java...
You do get Mike, that most people who vote for him know exactly what he is and vote for him anyway?
As RP quite rightly says, the reason he keeps on winning is the lack of a viable alternative primarily and the fact that his faults IMO are exaggerated for political expediency.
No, I don't get that. I'm not sure that the vast majority of the electorate follow politics as closely as we do, principally because they don't have the time.
He doesn't keep on winning : he won mayoral race and one GE, where Corbyn stood absolutely no chance. In effect he won two 2-horse races.
But, I don't believe it! You didn't answer my question !! .....about Johnson being dishonest and a chancer
Finally, several Tory MPs have been pointing out his faults : is that through
political expediency?
 
Top