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angelic upstart

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Sounds a bit like nationalisation to me, you commie
So does paying piles of money to corporations every year for no reason which the govt already do!
 

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Some headlines in the Telegraph yday:

By abstaining on the lockdown vote, Starmer has condemned Labour to irrelevance.

The default dithering doesn’t simply undermine his status as a leader, it weakens our politics.


I'm sure Boris will be putting words along those lines into his armoury to be used some time later.
So, by ordering his members to abstain on the UC vote, does that re-confirm Johnson and the rest of the Bullingdon boys as the nasty party who don't really care a jot about the poor folk in the "real world"? Hopefully now, with Brexit out of the way, many of his new 2019 fanboys will fianlly realise that all of his "levelling up" spiel is an irrelevance.

I'm sure Sir Kier will be putting words along those lines into his armoury to be used some time later.
 

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Something for Mr Jenrick to cut his teeth on:

"Having toured the world the Trump Baby blimp is now heading to its final resting place, the Museum of London, where it will be conserved and potentially displayed in the museum’s future new home in West Smithfield in the coming years."

Sharon Ament, Museum of London Director, said: “London has always been an open, ever-evolving polyglot city. A haven for knowledge, tradition and controversy and over thousands of years we have played host to many a historic protest. From the Suffragettes of the early twentieth century to the anti-austerity marches, free speech and Black Lives Matter most recently – the capital has always been the place to have your say. By collecting the baby blimp we can mark the wave of feeling that washed over the city that day and capture a particular moment of resistance - a feeling still relevant today as we live through these exceptionally challenging times - that ultimately shows Londoners banding together in the face of extreme adversity.”

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So, by ordering his members to abstain on the UC vote, does that re-confirm Johnson and the rest of the Bullingdon boys as the nasty party who don't really care a jot about the poor folk in the "real world"? Hopefully now, with Brexit out of the way, many of his new 2019 fanboys will fianlly realise that all of his "levelling up" spiel is an irrelevance.

I'm sure Sir Kier will be putting words along those lines into his armoury to be used some time later.
Spot on, but Sir Kier's armoury is already too heavy to bear.
 

Mr Jinx

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So, by ordering his members to abstain on the UC vote, does that re-confirm Johnson and the rest of the Bullingdon boys as the nasty party who don't really care a jot about the poor folk in the "real world"? Hopefully now, with Brexit out of the way, many of his new 2019 fanboys will fianlly realise that all of his "levelling up" spiel is an irrelevance.

I'm sure Sir Kier will be putting words along those lines into his armoury to be used some time later.
Do you really think they're going to fall into Labour's trap, which is pretty much all it is, very much unlike the Lockdown voting?
 

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"The prime minister believes that all of us, in our political language and debate, need to remember to be civil and kind to each other,” Allegra Stratton told reporters when asked why Johnson had compared Labour tactics with those used by supporters of Donald Trump". ... .

Johnson doesn't seem to get it that the main purpose of an opposition is to scrutinize and if necessary criticise government policies and actions. His attitude is more Trump:like than anything Starmer has said or done, in my opinion.
It seems that "civil and kind" is a euphemism for "don't criticise".
 

Grecian2K

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Do you really think they're going to fall into Labour's trap, which is pretty much all it is, very much unlike the Lockdown voting?
Ah, so when Labour abstain on a vote it's an dereliction of responsibility but when the Tories do it it's "not falling into a trap".

Glad we've cleared that one up.
 
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"They call him Britain Trump" - Johnson anointed by the great man himself.
 

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Interesting that reports suggest President Joe will make his first trip outside North America to the United Kingdom. This prior to the Cornwall scene.

If true, Elgy's beloved EU may feel a tad disappointed.
 

Mr Jinx

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Ah, so when Labour abstain on a vote it's an dereliction of responsibility but when the Tories do it it's "not falling into a trap".

Glad we've cleared that one up.
Oh cmon, you know very well what the difference is here.

The Brexit Deal bill had a massive bearing as to the future of this country. There was every reason an MP should have a view one way or the other. The same goes for enacting lockdowns seeing as they're the equivalent of a financial crash each time you do one.

Labour's motion is none of those. Do you really think the Tories should just vote with or against any kind of proposal or Labour slings out? It's nothing more than a bear trap and the Tories have every reason to abstain.
 
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