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tavyred

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I don't think that really is a very logical thing to say tavy, considering I'm wanting to stay connected whereas you aren't. Perhaps I shouldn't expect logic from you though.
The whole world is my lobster Geoff, I suspect however that you’d struggle to connect with Ipplepen! :)
 

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Well I did stop at the Wellington once for lunch and a pint on the way through to Totnes but I'm not sure how much of a connection it was.
 

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Problem no. 2. Not not news, but a reminder that Pelosi says Congress will block any trade deals with UK if the Good Friday Agreement is threatened. They may or may not want/need to do that, but it's an indicator that doing trade deals to compensate for the huge loss of trade with the EU will not be a walk in the park.
 

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Corbyn wants MP's to make him PM so he can stop a no deal Brexit! Are things that bad a man who isn't even popular with his own MP's thinks the country would accept that?? Is he growing funny plants down on his allotments and smoking it??
 

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Corbyn wants MP's to make him PM so he can stop a no deal Brexit! Are things that bad a man who isn't even popular with his own MP's thinks the country would accept that?? Is he growing funny plants down on his allotments and smoking it??
Not for nothing did McDonnell state that Labour would not oppose a 2nd Scottish independence referendum. All part of the game.
 

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Not for nothing did McDonnell state that Labour would not oppose a 2nd Scottish independence referendum. All part of the game.
It's becoming more like a battle of the egos with Johnson on one side and Corbyn on the other and neither give a stuff about the UK, It's all about personal political power
 

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Evidence please or this is just another made up accusation (bull$hit in other words)
Unless of course you are actually his doctor and I'll take your word for it ...
If you would like to read what I posted and respond to the evidence i cited that would help (and be a first). And you could have a look at this (before dismissing it out of hand no doubt)
 

tavyred

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If you would like to read what I posted and respond to the evidence i cited that would help (and be a first). And you could have a look at this (before dismissing it out of hand no doubt)
Trump is the mother of all narcissists, which may or may not be a prerequisite of being the Leader of the free world.
He doesn’t have Alzheimer’s.
 

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Corbyn wants MP's to make him PM so he can stop a no deal Brexit! Are things that bad a man who isn't even popular with his own MP's thinks the country would accept that?? Is he growing funny plants down on his allotments and smoking it??
Days of reason have long since gone. Spreadsheet Phil will still do whatever he can to scupper Brexit, but he will never willingly let Corbyn become PM. I think even he'd prefer No Deal over that.
 

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That is what Corbyn doesn't realise, No one wants him as PM, The Tories don't trust him, His own MP's don't trust him and poll after poll says the public don't trust him
 

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Days of reason have long since gone. Spreadsheet Phil will still do whatever he can to scupper Brexit, but he will never willingly let Corbyn become PM. I think even he'd prefer No Deal over that.
Spreadsheet Phil did actually vote for Brexit three times in Parliament, but don't let that spoil your fun....

The days of reason have indeed long gone in your case
 

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While bound by CCR, of course.
What does that matter? As DB says, he voted for Brexit 3 times. He says now he still wants Brexit, just NOT a no deal one. He is still a Brexit man, or are 'no deal brexiteers' the only ones accepted in the fold anymore? On another note I really think Scotland should be given a second referendum for independence. Why not? After all people do change their minds particularly when they see the English screwing things up. Scottish backstop anyone?
 

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While bound by CCR, of course.
Are you suggesting he didn't mean it? That's more than a bit harsh.... He was always clear about the economic downsides but I always thought that he and TM did actually want to deliver some sort of Brexit, albeit not one to everyone's taste..
 

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Are you suggesting he didn't mean it? That's more than a bit harsh.... He was always clear about the economic downsides but I always thought that he and TM did actually want to deliver some sort of Brexit, albeit not one to everyone's taste..
He's someone who seems to have drifted off during the A50 process having started off quite bullish - in public at least. In fact prior to the referendum he, like Grieve, were on camera stating that should we vote to leave, when the A50 process expires we leave with or without a deal.

Word is he was very active behind the scenes doing all he could to scupper any No Deal planning.

I get the feeling that had he been free of the shackles of one of the Great Offices of State, and with it a central figure in CCR, he might have been in the Grieve camp.
 
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