Yesterdays poor performance was as much to do with Jones as it was our defending. Both were not good enough for L1. BUT if Jones was the sort of GK that commanded his area with a degree of confidence, and extended the sense of security to the defenders then he would become a better keeper and our defence would have a better feeling of security. Jonesy's demonstration of how not to deal with crosses into the 6 yard box was abysmal, definitely not appropriate from a professional keeper with many years experience.Bound to be aren't I? So it doesn't matter that our defence is sh*te, lets all give Jonesy a roasting and forget about them f*cking it up righteously yesterday. Like I said, all four goals and both penalties should have been dealt with before Jones needed to be involved, yet he's the one taking all the stick.
On the thread about players' ratings, someone even gave Billy Jones an 8, and this when three of the goals came from his side of the pitch. How a defender in a team that concedes four plus two penalties can get an 8 is beyond me, although it seems many on here are just after a scapegoat rather than a real solution.
You tell us "any half decent keeper" would have coped, but then have to choose possibly the best there has ever been as evidence. Jones is a 3rd division keeper behind a 3rd Division defence, Yesterday they all showed it.agreed, the defence was rubbish, didnt do their jobs etc etc
but any half decent keeper would have saved their defence and then given them a bollocking for their mistakes, abit like peter schmeichel used to..
jones is not capable of either at the moment. he wasnt helped by his defence, but he is solely at fault for the goals yesterday.
That's the nub of it. You can function as a keeper without commanding your box, you can get by with some spectacular shot stopping, but you'll never be a fully competent goalkeeper until you can boss teh penalty area.if Jones was the sort of GK that commanded his area with a degree of confidence, and extended the sense of security to the defenders then he would become a better keeper and our defence would have a better feeling of security. .
There was a temptation to blame P Jones for three of the goals when watching the game yesterday but the brief BBC "highlights" put matters in a different light and Ant's summary above makes a lot of good points. Still cannot work out why PJ made no attempt to save the first header but again their player was given a free header.Not denying he didn't have his best game ever, but the main reason for defending him is that I think he's being singled out here when the defence seem to be getting off scot free. As I said regarding the second penalty, Troy could have headed it anywhere, yet he headed it straight to their attacker's feet, then compounded the error by upending him for a penalty!
Look at Billy Jones diving in on McDonald and missing by a country mile. McDonald steps sideways and all of a sudden he's in one on one with not a single defender within ten yards of him inside the penalty area for their fourth goal.
Who was defending the far post for their second, who let the guy nod it back unchallenged and was Jones the only City player in the four surrounding Alexander allowed to make a challenge instead of letting him bundle the ball home.
How about the third goal? How many defenders got beaten before Jones had to come rushing out to meet their attacker? The guy beat him by inches, but why was it allowed to get to that in the first place?
Their first goal - who was on the edge of the box offering no challenge to their goalscorer?
Like I say, it was far from Jones' best game in a City shirt, but lets have a bit of balance here and look at how each of those goals came about - every single one of them, and the two penalties, should have been dealt with a long time before Jones needed to be involved.
Totally agree. Youth is no excuse. If you are picked and paid you are expected to produce the goods whatever the age.All this talk of Jonah being a young player still developing...he's had time enough to develop this aspect of the job but he's yet to indicate that he's even started doing it.