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Furlough the players to avoid a cashflow crisis

IndoMike

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I admit I got suckered into posting non relevant stuff once again by Mickey Mouse and apologise for it.
Ramoaner,
I accept your apology. 😊
 

John William

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I admit I got suckered into posting non relevant stuff once again by Mickey Mouse and apologise for it.
To misuse the words of Alexander Pope:

To err is human.
To forgive divine.
You have erred.
We forgive you.
 

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The point I made which was quite simple....You said in your original post that 100,000s people were likely to die in the UK if we carried on with the initial strategy...I pointed out that only 100,000 had died globally and that your claim was a extreme case of hyperbole...which clearly it was...It doesnt need a "specialist" in semantics to understand that.
And the simple point I made is that the 100,000 global deaths and 7,978 UK deaths up to 5pm on the 8th April have come despite social distancing measures and severe lockdowns on those countries. If those measures had not been taken and a herd immunity only policy taken it would be reasonable to predict (and I haven't seen any scientific or medical specialists who haven't) that the number of cases would have been exponentially higher causing the NHS to be overrun and therefore also a exponentially higher death rate by the time herd immunity had started to take affect. Their modelling was for 200k deaths in the UK which is why the government changed tack and ordered social distancing and a lockdown. So why is it hyperbole other than you don't believe what the specialists were advising.

Are you seriously believing that the lockdown and social distancing measures taken globally have had no effect on the case rate and death rate? And that the health systems in the worst affected areas such as Lombardy have not been stretched to breaking point and maybe beyond.

It doesn't need a "specialist" in semantics in this case as semantics has no place in this situation...open eyes and minds however does.
 

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And the simple point I made is that the 100,000 global deaths and 7,978 UK deaths up to 5pm on the 8th April have come despite social distancing measures and severe lockdowns on those countries. If those measures had not been taken and a herd immunity only policy taken it would be reasonable to predict (and I haven't seen any scientific or medical specialists who haven't) that the number of cases would have been exponentially higher causing the NHS to be overrun and therefore also a exponentially higher death rate by the time herd immunity had started to take affect. Their modelling was for 200k deaths in the UK which is why the government changed tack and ordered social distancing and a lockdown. So why is it hyperbole other than you don't believe what the specialists were advising.

Are you seriously believing that the lockdown and social distancing measures taken globally have had no effect on the case rate and death rate? And that the health systems in the worst affected areas such as Lombardy have not been stretched to breaking point and maybe beyond.

It doesn't need a "specialist" in semantics in this case as semantics has no place in this situation...open eyes and minds however does.
It's hyperbole because "hundreds of thousands" we're never going to die in the UK. It's not even debatable, but feel free to do so if you wish, but not with me!
 

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It's hyperbole because "hundreds of thousands" we're never going to die in the UK. It's not even debatable, but feel free to do so if you wish, but not with me!
Far be it for anyone to suggest you are ever wrong in your own opinions. If you can't stand debate that goes against your 20/20 logic, why instigate it? Good luck with your home applied dentistry. TTFN.
 

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It's hyperbole because "hundreds of thousands" we're never going to die in the UK. It's not even debatable, but feel free to do so if you wish, but not with me!
I would dispute this. We're at 8,000 or so deaths already. We've been advising people to wash their hands etc for a couple of months now and also lockdown for 3 weeks. If these measures were not taken and this virus having the freedom to spread at will through the population, it is not inconceivable to see the death rate run into the hundreds of thousands at least.

Anyway, that is off topic. I wish Coronavirus could be furloughed and ordered to stay at home.
 

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Alistair20000

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My understanding of the Club finances is that unless we furlough the players soon we are heading for a cashflow crisis later in the year.

Forest Green and Portsmouth have already done it and we should follow suit as soon as possible.

We do not have to wait for permission from the PFA or EFL. This an employment issue only.

Ed
On the basis of the Club statement today 14 April they were already furloughed on 14 March.

Something odd about this ?
 

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On the basis of the Club statement today 14 April they were already furloughed on 14 March.

Something odd about this ?
"as of" not "on". Backdated, presumably.
 

Alistair20000

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"as of" not "on". Backdated, presumably.
As I understand the government compensation scheme it only applies from the date when the players agreed to be furloughed and ceased to do any work for the Club. As of an on are indistinguishable in this context.
 
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