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Furlough the players to avoid a cashflow crisis

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This isn't the politics thread! And neither is this on the Social Club forum!
 

ramone

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If i had to agree with you we would both be wrong
Lets put in plain English , THE TESTS WERE ORDERED, WHEN THEY GOT HERE THEY WERENT AS GOOD AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE. there is that simple enough ?
I don't need to get someone onside to help out against you !
 

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Lets put in plain English , THE TESTS WERE ORDERED, WHEN THEY GOT HERE THEY WERENT AS GOOD AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE. there is that simple enough ?
I don't need to get someone onside to help out against you !
Are you talking to yourself here?
 

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I think you misunderstand, I was posting about herd immunity specifically and if the UK carried on its original course of letting the virus run through the population to create herd immunity it would supposedly have needed 60% of the population to contract that virus. It was the scientific answer to how we get out of this situation quickly. However, as pointed out above the mortality rate whilst sounding low at 1% when scaled up to 40 million...I'll let you do the math. Boris and the rest of the government were given models by the scientists that if left unchecked, there could have been over 200k deaths and a severely overrun NHS. See https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/estimates-relative-impact-different-covid-19-control-measures-uk for an example study although not peer reviewed.

It would be a very brave/callous government who could let that happen when there was a way of mitigating those outcomes, in this case lockdown. It would be political suicide if nothing else. So the government changed tack (some may say belatedly) and the figures will not be as high. They are hoping to keep the fatalities south of 20k.

As shown in other countries the key without a readily available treatment or vaccine to come out of a full lockdown is testing and lots of it once the peak has passed. We are not in that situation yet. Then herd immunity can take place. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2020/03/uk-backed-herd-immunity-beat-covid-19-well-ultimately-need-it/amp

I know listening to specialists hasn't been fashionable and you are free to live your life as you want within the law. When something serious pops up though, I'll listen to the specialists.
The point I made which was quite simple....You said in your original post that 100,000s people were likely to die in the UK if we carried on with the initial strategy...I pointed out that only 100,000 had died globally and that your claim was a extreme case of hyperbole...which clearly it was...It doesnt need a "specialist" in semantics to understand that.
 

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Wrong person. Mis-post.
 

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This isn't the politics thread! And neither is this on the Social Club forum!
It's a joke. They've taken over the thread. What are the mods doing?
 

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The point I made which was quite simple....You said in your original post that 100,000s people were likely to die in the UK if we carried on with the initial strategy...I pointed out that only 100,000 had died globally and that your claim was a extreme case of hyperbole...which clearly it was...It doesnt need a "specialist" in semantics to understand that.
We don't know for sure how many folks will die, but I did see that the USA is now predicting 60,000 deaths. The impact is felt by hundreds of thousands of people, but you guys weren't discussing that. Whatever : it's all a bleddy nightmare.
 

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It's a joke. They've taken over the thread. What are the mods doing?
I think people got bored with the "furlough" topic. You can only say "furlough" so many times before the punters fall asleep.
Here to help 😊
 

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It's a joke. They've taken over the thread. What are the mods doing?
These are exceptional times ed.
 

ramone

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If i had to agree with you we would both be wrong
It's a joke. They've taken over the thread. What are the mods doing?
I admit I got suckered into posting non relevant stuff once again by Mickey Mouse and apologise for it.
 
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