Furlough the players to avoid a cashflow crisis

Rosencrantz

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Not really, Geoff. Fortunately, I don't need the money, but virtually everyone, except those working for the government, will face a very uncertain future if this situation is extended beyond May..I'm suggesting a solution which is already being implemented by a number of countries, who are slowly lifting restrictions whilst maintaining a shield for the vulnerable. We seem to be blundering on with the only strategy being lockdown.
Haven't those countries either managed the peak through mass testing (missed the boat on that one) or have got over the peak to enable them to do so? Until that happens in the UK the lockdown will continue no matter what anyone wishes. Also it has been shown that it is not just the vulnerable in danger to this virus. Testing is key and that is what the government should be held to account for.
 
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The government had ordered and received quite a few tests but once delivered were found to be not of the standard our government reqd and are in the process of getting more and better suited test kits.
Never ordered anything and had to send it back ?
Not when it was a matter of life and death, no.
Not when it was hundreds of thousands of items..
Didn't they do quality control?
More weeks wasted
Don't justify the unjustifiable, Ramone.
This is not about politics : it's about a major
health hazard, protecting our medical staff, getting doctors and nurses who are self - isolating back to work, and getting closer to the end of the lockdown
 

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Are we talking of the made in China testing kits here that were found to be faulty ? Assuming that is not fake news. If so rather difficult to do quality control until we received them.
 

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Are we talking of the made in China testing kits here that were found to be faulty ? Assuming that is not fake news. If so rather difficult to do quality control until we received them.
True enough.

And the fact that we had to order shedloads of them in case they did work shows up the frustration of 'the winner takes all' grab for equipment as a result of countries becoming more isolationist in recent years. Where's the game changing co-operation in this global pandemic?
 

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If i had to agree with you we would both be wrong
Are we talking of the made in China testing kits here that were found to be faulty ? Assuming that is not fake news. If so rather difficult to do quality control until we received them.
Yes we are Alistair , As our government didn't get to check them before they got here then there wasn't any real way of checking suitability for purpose.
But as normal Micky Mouse butts in and rants on about things because he hasn't seen them in black n white in the Guardian who only publish the truth as far as he is concerned.
 

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True enough.

And the fact that we had to order shedloads of them in case they did work shows up the frustration of 'the winner takes all' grab for equipment as a result of countries becoming more isolationist in recent years. Where's the game changing co-operation in this global pandemic?
When the chips are down it is every man for himself.
 

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In RaWZ we trust....Amen.
When the chips are down it is every man for himself.
We are seeing that all over.
Stranded tourists subject to xenophobia in some Asian countrys(principally India & Philippines)
Even Australia has urged all foreigners to go home as soon as possible because they want to prioritise Australia citizens in the pandemic.
Imagine the uproar if the UK government made that statement.
 

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Herd immunity works to an extent on the basis you have a vaccine to protect the most vulnerable (as with the regular flu) otherwise you risk a higher amount of avoidable deaths and increased stress on the NHS in peak times which is already at full stretch due to lack of investment. As Covid-19 is much more virulent and therefore deadly virus than normal flu with no available vaccine than it is unthinkable for any politician to pursue that policy which would leave deaths in the hundreds of thousands and the NHS in severe meltdown. They wouldn't get elected again for a generation.

Herd immunity will play a part in the exit strategy, but not until accurate and abundant testing is in place to partially lift the lockdown and not until a vaccine is available for fully lifting the lockdown.
Hyperbole is something to be avoided at the moment...The global death toll is still below 100,000 (a shocking total in itself) but you go on to suggest that the UK on its own could be left with "hundreds of thousands" dead from the disease which is beyond the realms of possibility.
 
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