UK Lockdown

[IndoMike]

Question for virologists on here.

We know these diseases are capable of mutating to preserve their existence.

What if a vaccine is found but Mr Covid-19 mutates into something more deadly to preserve its miserable existence ? Is there a hidden danger in a vaccine ?

#glumglummerandevenmoreglummer

It's just one article among many, but it might decrease your level of glumminess.

Opinion | The Coronavirus Is Mutating, and That’s Fine (So Far) (Published 2020)

SARS-CoV-2 has been slowly changing in small ways, without getting more dangerous.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Alistair20000]

No, I suggested we learn from the Taiwanese not look for a unicorn.

So what exactly can they teach us please ? Is there a linky thing ?

 

[Mr Jinx]

For those who like stats & graphs.
View attachment 3599

Eerily similar to Spanish flu, circa 1918 (albeit deaths):




They didn't really do lockdowns or masks back then, so you wonder how effective those measures actually are.

 

[Rosencrantz]

Pleasing to see lower positive tests in the last couple of days.
That can’t be down to the measures that have been just introduced. ?

Knocks the graph we were all shown last week at the briefing out a little.

Haven't seen any geographic breakdowns but local lockdowns have been in place for longer in some places. Maybe they are taking effect?

 

[elginCity]

So what exactly can they teach us please ? Is there a linky thing ?

You really ought to learn how to use search engines, Al

Here’s a paper highlighting their border controls.

If not useful now with any possible second wave, sure to be handy to know for any future pandemic. Assuming governmental willingness to learn lessons is there.

Analysis of Imported Cases of COVID-19 in Taiwan: A Nationwide Study

In the early stages of the 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic, containment of disease importation from epidemic areas was essential for outbreak control. This study is based on publicly accessible data on confirmed COVID-19 cases in Taiwan ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Alistair20000]

You really ought to learn how to use search engines, Al

Here’s a paper highlighting their border controls.

If not useful now with any possible second wave, sure to be handy to know for any future pandemic. Assuming governmental willingness to learn lessons is there.

Analysis of Imported Cases of COVID-19 in Taiwan: A Nationwide Study

In the early stages of the 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic, containment of disease importation from epidemic areas was essential for outbreak control. This study is based on publicly accessible data on confirmed COVID-19 cases in Taiwan ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thanks Elgy. I will study this treatise. Why not ask a wise man for help rather than faffing around ? Besides all research time currently dedicated to quiz questions. With only 2 in place so far the noose is tightening.

My brain has not really worked very well since the terror of the Baedeker raids question set by a particularly evil quizmater a few years back.

 

[RedPaul]

Johnson, Valance and Whitty to 'update' the nation tomorrow.

Figures back up today across all measures

 

[DB9]

Trying to put a bit of "Better" news on the rise in infections and deaths, This bit, taken from the BBCNews website:


"While the number of new infections and deaths will cause alarm – both are up on previous days – the data on hospital admissions is more encouraging.
For the fourth day in a row, the numbers have come down in England.
On Sunday there were 241 admissions, down from 314 on Wednesday.
To put that in context, at the peak England was seeing 3,000 admissions a day."

 

[Alistair20000]

Johnson, Valance and Whitty to 'update' the nation tomorrow.

Figures back up today across all measures

I would like to hear from other scientists as well as from this pair of Gloomsters. I don't really want to hear from Boris at all.

Monday figures often a bit unreliable ?

 

[RedPaul]

I would like to hear from other scientists as well as from this pair of Gloomsters. I don't really want to hear from Boris at all.

Monday figures often a bit unreliable ?

I'd like to hear from someone with a plan rather than someone thrashing around, lurching from one set of incoherent 'rules" to another on a seemingly daily basis, whilst simultaneously pushing laws through in the dead of night with no scrutiny and then not even knowing what the laws say.

It will all be leaked to the papers overnight anyway so no need to watch.

Ex boss of Sainsbury's been appointed to sort out mass T&T. You'd think some knowledge of the public health system would be important in this but there you go.