Tisdale V Taylor

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Never seen it, Since this is the closest thing I do to being on social media, I'd never see it. Did notice it say last signed 4 years ago but fair play for showing me. Still don't think this is classed as being ousted
I have never said he was ousted. He left after turning down a new contract.

ps The petition was debated on Exeweb, but I have no idea how to find threads about it.
 

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I have never said he was ousted. He left after turning down a new contract.

ps The petition was debated on Exeweb, but I have no idea how to find threads about it.
I know you didn't, 100milesaway on another thread said he was ousted. If it was debated I probably never took notice much ( I think) as I would never sign it or interested in it. Like you I know why he left, Because he turned down our offer, No conspiracies or anything like others tried to imply
 

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That was my reply to your response to my "witch hunt" comment - nothing to do with petitions
Sorry, Got a little confused who wrote what. Agree with endless threads about Tisdale over the course of his tenure but I'm sure he wasn't bothered about what people were writing on a fans forum. His time is over, Left an obvious impression, Me I'm grateful for what he did, Now we have a new man in charge whom I'm 100% behind and as for Tis, Thanks for the memories but we've all moved on
 

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I don't think you can say he primarily left because of a witch hunt unless you know differently on what went on behind closed doors?
Immediately prior to Tis leaving I spoke with someone who knows him very well, and has done since childhood. It surprised me when he told me that the Trust notice resolution wasn't a factor in his decision-making (it was during that will he stay, or will he go, period), 'water off a duck's back' he described it. Perhaps Tis just felt it was finally the right time to go, no more and no less than that.
 

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Immediately prior to Tis leaving I spoke with someone who knows him very well, and has done since childhood. It surprised me when he told me that the Trust notice resolution wasn't a factor in his decision-making (it was during that will he stay, or will he go, period), 'water off a duck's back' he described it. Perhaps Tis just felt it was finally the right time to go, no more and no less than that.
Although I'm cautious when someone says they heard it from a friend etc I'd imagine that could be nearer the mark even though we'll never know the absolute answer
 

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Immediately prior to Tis leaving I spoke with someone who knows him very well, and has done since childhood. It surprised me when he told me that the Trust notice resolution wasn't a factor in his decision-making (it was during that will he stay, or will he go, period), 'water off a duck's back' he described it. Perhaps Tis just felt it was finally the right time to go, no more and no less than that.
If so then a pity he had not gone prior to the playoff final.
 

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I can totally understand why he didn't. He will have wanted to win it and achieve promotion, and why not. Would look good on his cv just as much as it would have been good for us.
 

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I can totally understand why he didn't. He will have wanted to win it and achieve promotion, and why not. Would look good on his cv just as much as it would have been good for us.
Maybe so, but the way he set us up and the initial substitutions at two down didn't make it look that way. It was classic Tisdale, and most could see it was very unlikely to succeed. We could have really gone at them if we had been braver.
 

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Hindsight is always spot on for answers though isn't it. There were players who didn't turn up either, but hey water under the bridge. I'm still certain that he wanted it.
 

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The question in the OP is pointless.

Tisdale has gone. Matt Taylor is the Gaffer now and we need to get behind him and the team.
Like we did with Tisdale?

Personally I think the fans who voted to serve notice on Tisdale's contract when results were poor made a decision as to what club they wanted this to be. By that rational, I would argue Taylor is 3 more games without a win before he gets the chop.
 

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While we've been Trust owned, we've never sacked a manager. I've asked some Trustees, whether they think the Trust Board could have put forward to the Club Board that a manager should be sacked - I've no had a clear answer. Unless something disastrous happens, I don't think the TB would ever ask (instruct) the CB to get rid of a manager.
 

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While we've been Trust owned, we've never sacked a manager. I've asked some Trustees, whether they think the Trust Board could have put forward to the Club Board that a manager should be sacked - I've no had a clear answer. Unless something disastrous happens, I don't think the TB would ever ask (instruct) the CB to get rid of a manager.
Quite right (except in very exceptional circumstances)
 

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While we've been Trust owned, we've never sacked a manager. I've asked some Trustees, whether they think the Trust Board could have put forward to the Club Board that a manager should be sacked - I've no had a clear answer. Unless something disastrous happens, I don't think the TB would ever ask (instruct) the CB to get rid of a manager.
Serving notice on his deal was as good as a sacking. The trust didn't give him a new offer and most of the (more vocal) fans made little bones about the fact they wanted Tisdale (and perryman) to go.

The problem is that whatever we may think, 99.9% of supporters on the terrace know absolutely ****** all about football. Very few have sat in a professional dressing room. Although I am perfectly aware non-football people make footballing decisions at other (most) clubs, we have now created a situation for ourselves where we have neither football people, nor business people, making major decisions for the club. People may have dressed up Tisdale's notice as a business decision, and others as a football decision. Unfortunately a democratic majority of our trust members are experts in either.

The other thing that worries me is that people were so vocal about getting rid of the most successful manager in the club's history, that now there is a motivation to prove themselves right with with the man who was brought in to replace him.

How do the fans (who have demonstrated their power in making massive decisions) now demonstrate any form of objectivity when it comes to their new man? I'd be interested to know what level of success/or failure people would continue to support him with and for how long.
 

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Tisdale was offered a new contract. He chose to walk away from City. This is FACT, a real fact.
 

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Not many “football people” or “business people” make a very good job at other clubs, maybe we’ve broken the mould by having people who genuinely love the club they’re working for and treat people the right way.

Tisdale was offered a new contract by the trust.
 

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Tisdale was offered a new contract. He chose to walk away from City. This is FACT, a real fact.
It is a fact, however I cannot believe anyone here is naive enough to argue that he wasn't helped out of the door. The fans, and at least in theory, his paymasters, voted to serve notice on the most successful manager in the club's history.

Yes he was bottom of the league when the notice was given, however after two trips to the play-off final in two years, people still wanted him out and he knew it. Had there been chants of 'we want you to stay' at the end of the Lincoln game, maybe he would have re-considered signing.

The point is, to argue that by serving notice we (I use the word 'we' loosely') did not effectively call for the manager to be dismissed, is just mad.

Sacking or not, he was as much pushed as he did walk.
 
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