General Election - 8thJune

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The only way a Tory majority could possibly be prevented is if Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP and Plaid formed a progressive alliance that ensured they would not stand against each other in certain marginal seats, and could form a coalition if they succeeded in preventing a Tory majority. But it's wishful thinking on my part I think.
 

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The only way a Tory majority could possibly be prevented is if Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP and Plaid formed a progressive alliance that ensured they would not stand against each other in certain marginal seats, and could form a coalition if they succeeded in preventing a Tory majority. But it's wishful thinking on my part I think.
My God, think of the fall out if such a thing came to pass and they won a majority. Enough to keep us amused for at least 6 months till the next GE.
 

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I think this is a mistake from May. She didn't need to call it and she could've had Corbyn at Labour's helm for another 3 years to make sure they'd be completely destroyed at the end of it and facing a very long way back for 2025.

By calling it now Corbyn has only 50 days left as Leader before being ousted for good. Then you'd have to assume Labour would get a much stronger Leader in charge ready to fight again in 2020.

She may have effectively cost the Tories 5 plus extra years in power.

Not that I care. For the first time ever I think, I'm struggling to decide who to vote for. I currently have no idea. I might not even bother.
 

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Do Labour have a much stronger leader-in-waiting? I did have hopes for Mr Corbyn when he assumed the mantle but, clearly, it hasn't worked out so well.
 
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Nothing should surprise us any more and literally any result is on the table.

I can see Labour struggling to get 50 seats (and that's speaking as a supporter and party member!) - Tories and UKIP will destroy it in the North and Lib Dems will take many votes from them in the South and in the cities - particularly if they go for broke with a 'revoke Article 50' ticket.

Sound unlikely? - so did losing Copeland until it happened. Regrettably - why would anyone vote Labour at the moment? Just need to hope there's a party left for someone half sensible - and with a seat - to lead come June 9th.
 

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Nothing should surprise us any more and literally any result is on the table.

I can see Labour struggling to get 50 seats (and that's speaking as a supporter and party member!) - Tories and UKIP will destroy it in the North and Lib Dems will take many votes from them in the South and in the cities - particularly if they go for broke with a 'revoke Article 50' ticket.

Sound unlikely? - so did losing Copeland until it happened. Regrettably - why would anyone vote Labour at the moment? Just need to hope there's a party left for someone half sensible - and with a seat - to lead come June 9th.
Disagree entirely. There's only one result on the table and that's a Tory majority. The question is how much?

Labour, even with their current malaise, will easily get 50 seats. And they were always going to lose Copeland (and cling on to Stoke).

I think the Tories will get around a 100-120 seat majority.

Labour will lose around 60-70 seats and the Lib Dems will gain 10-20. The SNP will hold strong. UKIP may surprise with 1 or 2 gains. As may Aaron Banks with whatever he's concocting.
 
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I assume the opposition parties won't get together and attempt to make May look stupid by voting no to a snap election???
 

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Gobsmacked by the news earlier.

I favour the argument that this is actually about making Brexit 'softer' by not being held to ransom by the 20 or so ultra-right wingers on the Tory back benches for whom a single more £ paid to Brussels will represent a cop-out. Having a larger Tory majority should enable May and Bojo to ignore them, although of course Davis is one of them!

Her gamble is that she will get a larger majority. Very hard for sitting Labour MP's (who less than 12 months ago voted 172 to 40 in favour of a motion of no-confidence in their leader) to now argue that the very same leader should now be prime minister. Either they were collectively wrong and JC has changed his leadership style/policies (he hasn't) or they are right. Can't be both.

SNP can't pick up anymore seats in Scotland so that really leaves the Lib Dems and how many anti-Brexit / anti-Tory / both seats they pick up. 20? 30?

God help us if we have a Conservative majority but not enough to form a Government. Even Norman Lamb (Lib Dem) said tonight Corbyn would be a disaster but how can they prop up a Tory administration they disagree with so completely over Brexit.

Interesting times, again
 

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I assume the opposition parties won't get together and attempt to make May look stupid by voting no to a snap election???
Having said they want to get rid of the Government and now have an opportunity to do that if they can persuade the great unwashed it would be them and not Teaser who looked stupid if they took that line.
 

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Disagree entirely. There's only one result on the table and that's a Tory majority. The question is how much?

Labour, even with their current malaise, will easily get 50 seats. And they were always going to lose Copeland (and cling on to Stoke).

I think the Tories will get around a 100-120 seat majority.

Labour will lose around 60-70 seats and the Lib Dems will gain 10-20. The SNP will hold strong. UKIP may surprise with 1 or 2 gains. As may Aaron Banks with whatever he's concocting.
Well Jinxster, you did me a good 'un with our respective projections in 2015 on the number of Lib Dem seats. This time I am going 24-34 with 15-25 gains. I think Labour may do a bit better than you think 30 - 35 losses, no seats for UKIP unless Rubber Face comes back to have a go in a Labour seat, possible clean sweep for Jimmy Crankie and a Tory majority of less than 50. 1 or 2 Greens.

Are we on ?
 
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Gobsmacked by the news earlier.

I favour the argument that this is actually about making Brexit 'softer' by not being held to ransom by the 20 or so ultra-right wingers on the Tory back benches for whom a single more £ paid to Brussels will represent a cop-out. Having a larger Tory majority should enable May and Bojo to ignore them, although of course Davis is one of them!

Her gamble is that she will get a larger majority. Very hard for sitting Labour MP's (who less than 12 months ago voted 172 to 40 in favour of a motion of no-confidence in their leader) to now argue that the very same leader should now be prime minister. Either they were collectively wrong and JC has changed his leadership style/policies (he hasn't) or they are right. Can't be both.

SNP can't pick up anymore seats in Scotland so that really leaves the Lib Dems and how many anti-Brexit / anti-Tory / both seats they pick up. 20? 30?

God help us if we have a Conservative majority but not enough to form a Government. Even Norman Lamb (Lib Dem) said tonight Corbyn would be a disaster but how can they prop up a Tory administration they disagree with so completely over Brexit.

Interesting times, again
I think there may be something in the point highlighted.

I assume in your penultimate paragraph you mean Con as largest party and no overall majority ?
 
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... possible clean sweep for Jimmy Crankie ...
I'm not entirely convinced. I think the SNP will lose some seats, they're not as popular as they believe themselves to be. The Conservatives may even double their base there ...
 
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