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So, Wayne Hennessey - caught up in an unfortunate freeze frame or a stupid Nazi-saluting idiot?
 

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If we could see the picture we might be in a better position to decide.
 

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If we could see the picture we might be in a better position to decide.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46779604

(Not sure why the link says "cricket"!)

Hennessey's defence is that he was waving to the camera and put his hand above his mouth to shout and project above the noise in the room, and that the freeze frame makes it look like he was saluting.

The case for the prosecution: his arm being outstretched the way it is suggests he isn't waving but saluting, plus the assertion re: people putting their hand above their mouth to shout. And his mouth doesn't appear to be wide open.

The case for the defence: If he was doing a proper Hitler salute his whole hand wouldn't be across his face, rather he'd have saluted with one finger to represent the tiny 'tache.

Having studied the photo for a while I'm erring towards Nazi-saluting idiot, but it's so difficult without a recording rather than a still.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46779604

(Not sure why the link says "cricket"!)

Hennessey's defence is that he was waving to the camera and put his hand above his mouth to shout and project above the noise in the room, and that the freeze frame makes it look like he was saluting.

The case for the prosecution: his arm being outstretched the way it is suggests he isn't waving but saluting, plus the assertion re: people putting their hand above their mouth to shout. And his mouth doesn't appear to be wide open.

The case for the defence: If he was doing a proper Hitler salute his whole hand wouldn't be across his face, rather he'd have saluted with one finger to represent the tiny 'tache.

Having studied the photo for a while I'm erring towards Nazi-saluting idiot, but it's so difficult without a recording rather than a still.
It was clearly the Nazi salute and Hitler moustache he was imitating. I would put this down to him being a bit thick and not being conscious of the way it could be construed or could offend. It's the kind of thing Basil Fawlty did although with Basil there wan more intent. In my opinion it was silly and childish, but probably not intentionally hurtful.
 

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It was clearly the Nazi salute and Hitler moustache he was imitating. I would put this down to him being a bit thick and not being conscious of the way it could be construed or could offend. It's the kind of thing Basil Fawlty did although with Basil there wan more intent. In my opinion it was silly and childish, but probably not intentionally hurtful.
That's my view too. There are times when people are too quick to take offence at stuff which is clearly in jest.
 

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Too many celebratory beers, not enough brain cells, attempt at "banter" with his German teammate. Idiotic, but no big deal.
Yep. This was my view of the original photo but I don't think I've ever read anything so pathetic as the explanations and conclusions given in the report. Incredulous doesn't even get close. Who knew that Nazis actually just spent a lot of their time trying to get the attention of teammates, waiters and cameramen?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47946382
 
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