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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    The Cody Cooke rumour is gaining ground, midfielder turned striker, good physique, a bit in the Wheeler mould. He's already 25 (but so was Kellow!) Interest from Portsmouth apparently.
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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    We have not retained Ryan Brunt, so am finding it hard to understand why we have spent a whole season on working on him and bringing him to match fitness (since January in his own words) and all the cost and time that has involved, and then releasing him.
    Would it not have been more sensible to offer him a 'pay as you play' sort of deal, or even just a 3 month contract ?

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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver View Post
    We have not retained Ryan Brunt, so am finding it hard to understand why we have spent a whole season on working on him and bringing him to match fitness (since January in his own words) and all the cost and time that has involved, and then releasing him.
    Would it not have been more sensible to offer him a 'pay as you play' sort of deal, or even just a 3 month contract ?
    We signed him before his last injury, didn't we? He featured quite heavily in pre-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason H View Post
    We signed him before his last injury, didn't we? He featured quite heavily in pre-season.
    If only we could draw up contracts retrospectively once we know whether players get injured or not. Tisdale took a lot of stick for gambling on the likes of Hoskins and Brunt, but people forget the likes of Ribeiro and David Noble were also crocks and we got a decent bit of mileage out of them.

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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew p long View Post
    https://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/news/...ermanent-deal/

    Canít see any reference to contract length but worryingly his main reason for signing for ECFC was the manager Paul Tisdale
    All players say that. They love the current manager until he leaves and then love the next one, unless they don't get a game, whereupon they think the manager is a kant.

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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason H View Post
    We signed him before his last injury, didn't we? He featured quite heavily in pre-season.
    He was still recovering from his last injury when we signed him. I'm sure Tisdale said he didn't expect him to feature until new year. Those that watched him on the opening day of last season will know what sort of condition he was in.

    As for Noble and Ribiero they were signed at a time when we may have had to take those risks. Last year we didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manc grecian View Post
    He was still recovering from his last injury when we signed him. I'm sure Tisdale said he didn't expect him to feature until new year. Those that watched him on the opening day of last season will know what sort of condition he was in.

    As for Noble and Ribiero they were signed at a time when we may have had to take those risks. Last year we didn't.
    The gamble is that you sign a player with the quality that you'd not normally be able to attract to the club, on a contract they wouldn't sign for if they didn't have fitness issues. They stay crocked, you lose. They get fit, you win. I'm not convinced it's necessarily a bad approach, if done relatively sparingly.

    ...not convinced Brunt was ever good enough for the gamble to make sense... unless he was on an extraordinarily minimal wage.
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    You didn't have to be a genius to know Brunt and Hoskins were highly unlikely to play much given their injury records. In terms of a 'scale' both would have been in the 'high risk' zone.

    Brunt has only ever managed to start 17 league games in a season and that was only twice and once since 12/13. Hoskins had 12 league starts in the 5 seasons before he joined. Awful decisions and can't be cut any other way.

    Noble had at least played 25 times the season before, which earned him a move across Lg1. Plus he was, what 33? The other 2 should have been n their prime years for form/fitness. Noble was averaging about 20 odd games a season since he left City. Maybe far from perfect but incomparable to the aforementioned.

    Chirstian Ribeiro joined injured until September which isn't horrendous by previous standards either and started nearly 20 games the season before at Scunthorpe whilst he was on the bench for over 20 games too suggesting he was fit the vast majoirty of the season. The season before that he started nearly 30 times in the league above. Again, a completely different planet to the Hoskins and Brunt situations.

    Ribeiro and Noble (given his age) were understandable decisions before a ball was kicked. Hoskins and Brunt were not then and never will be.
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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason H View Post
    We signed him before his last injury, didn't we? He featured quite heavily in pre-season.
    He was still going through the rehab from his knee Injury he suffered in 2016, which is why he didn’t get offered a deal at Argyle. He then had some further setbacks after he signed for us.

    I will be amazed if he gets another league club this summer. I heard Truro were in for him.

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    Re: Retained list / squad for 2017/2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Moomin Grecian View Post
    He was still going through the rehab from his knee Injury he suffered in 2016, which is why he didn’t get offered a deal at Argyle. He then had some further setbacks after he signed for us.

    I will be amazed if he gets another league club this summer. I heard Truro were in for him.
    So what was Tisdale putting him on the bench for the past 2/3 months of the season for ?

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