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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    Quote Originally Posted by Hants_red View Post
    Topical for the Tory party though.
    The exception being a washing machine salesman called Jim.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    The Prince of Darkness now trashing Teaser’s Brexit blueprint and saying we would be better off out with no deal rather than adopting this piece of sickly fudge. His preferred option is of course to stay in as a fully paid up member with a second referendum.

    Not sure what Teaser does now when the EU demands yet further concessions.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair20000 View Post
    The Prince of Darkness now trashing Teaser’s Brexit blueprint and saying we would be better off out with no deal rather than adopting this piece of sickly fudge. His preferred option is of course to stay in as a fully paid up member with a second referendum.

    Not sure what Teaser does now when the EU demands yet further concessions.
    Nothing. There isn't anything she can do. The EU can't afford to give us a favourable deal, she can't afford to accept a less than favourable one. Her only chance is to crash out with a no deal, then hire some very good spin doctors to pin it all on Boris and Davis.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post
    Nothing. There isn't anything she can do. The EU can't afford to give us a favourable deal, she can't afford to accept a less than favourable one. Her only chance is to crash out with a no deal, then hire some very good spin doctors to pin it all on Boris and Davis.
    So is your money on a no deal exit on WTO terms Mr H ?

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair20000 View Post
    So is your money on a no deal exit on WTO terms Mr H ?
    Something very close to it. There may be some small agreements (over the status of EU citizens etc.) but not much else. The brexiteers won't accept any EU jurisdiction over anything in the UK (NI be damned) and the EU can't afford to give anything away on that front.

    There is no solution to the NI border, because you can't control your borders and have an open one.

    As I said before we might get a deal on goods at a later stage, because it's a comparatively easier deal to do and is a bigger bonus to the EU than it is for us, but that does nothing for the services that make up 80% of our economy.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    [QUOTE=Hermann;1733448]Something very close to it. There may be some small agreements (over the status of EU citizens etc.) but not much else. The brexiteers won't accept any EU jurisdiction over anything in the UK (NI be damned) and the EU can't afford to give anything away on that front.

    There is no solution to the NI border, because you can't control your borders and have an open one.



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    How the PM must now regret that early election call now & In hock to the DUP.
    Pretty sure a solution would have been found(customs) for the island of Ireland if she did not need their votes in parliament.
    The DUP will never accept anything that looks like a closer union(on paper) with the ROI.
    Last edited by Oldsmobile-88; 15 July 2018 at 22:58.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    [QUOTE=Oldsmobile-88;1733460]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post
    Something very close to it. There may be some small agreements (over the status of EU citizens etc.) but not much else. The brexiteers won't accept any EU jurisdiction over anything in the UK (NI be damned) and the EU can't afford to give anything away on that front.

    There is no solution to the NI border, because you can't control your borders and have an open one.



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    How the PM must now regret that early election call now & In hock to the DUP.
    Pretty sure a solution would have been found(customs) for the island of Ireland if she did not need their votes in parliament.
    The DUP will never accept anything that looks like a closer union(on paper) with the ROI.
    The DUP are a problem either way. They won't accept anything that brings closer union, or anything that makes the border harder.

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