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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair20000 View Post
    The point is he did not inherit the estate as it is held in trust as is common for all estates of this size.

    The trust pays Inheritance Tax every 10 years at 6% on its chargeable assets and on any assets appointed out of the trust. The principle here is that over 70 years the trust pays 42% IHT equivalent to the charge at 40% on an individual who dies.
    I stand corrected. But even so, it's unlikely that every Duke will be Duke for 70 years. The current one might as he inherited the title at a young age, but the previous one was Duke for less than 40 years, meaning significantly less than the 40% was paid.

    Plus I don't believe for a second the family has paid as much tax as they should have done. But then, none of us would if we could afford not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB9 View Post
    Mike, Not only is the rail line a curse being where it is, This is only one thing in a long line of useless, out of date transport links into the South West. Look at the road links, The A31/35 is a total embarrassment, The A303 is awful in places and even the M5 is getting so busy it can't cope, They are wasting loads on the HS2 when these roads need vast sums of money spent on them to improve them. The SW is crying out for this but get totally ignored by successive governments which in turn is killing any chance of decent economic growth in that area
    Wasn't the SW earmarked as chief beneficiary in the last round of transport infrastructure improvement plans?

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    You might possibly be right there Jason

    J House of Commons - Reports
    23rd Feb 1791
    Petition of gentleman, clergy, Freeholders and others, Trustees of the Axminster Turnpike and residing in Axminster, Thorncombe, Kilmington, Shute, Wickworthy, Offweell and Honiton, in County of Devon and Hawkchurch, Whitchurch Cannonicorum and Dashwood in the County of Dorset, setting out that the first Act of 1754 gave powers for specific roads from Askerswell to Honiton Workhouse. . In 1765 there was an enlargement from Honiton Workhouse towards Exon as far as the Branch of the Lyme Regis Turnpike leading from Ottery St Mary to Straitway Head; this was in a ruinous condition and in many places narrow and incommodious; and that in consequence of this an additional 5 miles was added; and that £700 should be expended on this with the proviso that no turnpike be erected between Honiton and Fairmile; and that a Turnpike erected at Gassmanís Hill should be taken down and no Turnpike erected on the road from Penn Inn to Honiton Workhouse, except at the East End of Axminster and at the end of Northcote Lane, west of Axminster, and also a side gate at Mount Pleasant, which were not to be altered.. In 1790, an Act was passed for Paving and improving the town of Honiton, by which Act Trustees of the Axminster Road, without consultation, without Notice and without their Knowledge, were absolutely discharged from the care and management of and all powers of management over, certain parts of the road which then became vested in the Commissioners of Honiton, by which Act the Axminster trustees were rendered incapable of being elected, unless resident within 5 miles of Honiton, by which Act, finally, Honiton became able to appropriate solely to herself all the tolls that can be collected within the District, in the formation and completion of which, Axminster since 1765 has expended £1,160 Principal, besides annual interest, but to that loan, and to the Burthen of the future repairs of the whole District, Axminster is still left subject. The petitioners foresee eventual evil, if not ruin to their trust and hardship to the public exposed to two new turnpikes erected on the Great Western Road in the vicinity of the Tollhouses, of which the easternmost place is at Northcote Lane, so that the payment of tolls at 3 different gates may be extracted from the traveller within the space of 3 miles; and that the petitioners have attempted to negotiate with Honiton over 6 months to compromise the Subject Matter by amicable negotiation; Petitioners ask that Axminster powers be terminated for the road between Honiton Workhouse and Straightway Head, and a portion of the tolls used for diminution of the debt of Axminster; but this has been frustrated
    Petitioners have been compelled to make application for the road from Quandos Gate over Hawkchurch Down to raise another £300.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    My Mum moved to Whitchurch Canonicorum last year!

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    When I first read it I missed the "powers" in
    Petitioners ask that Axminster powers be terminated
    I thought that was a bit extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason H View Post
    Wasn't the SW earmarked as chief beneficiary in the last round of transport infrastructure improvement plans?
    Indeed they were Jason but you know how many times these great schemes are paraded out then nothing seems to happen, Then a few years down the line the same idas are trawled out. At the moment the A303 tunnel under Stonehenge are being considered, While that is an important part of the trunk road, Its not the only part that is in need of upgrading. Wimbourne, Dorchester, Bridport, Chideock along the A35/31 are total bottlenecks that need addressing. The South West is still regarded as a six week holiday area to many and they don't realise that life is there all year round

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    Oh I agree about that stretch between Dorchester and Honiton, having had to negotiate it a number of times over the last six months or so! Not sure they can do too much between Bridport and Lyme Regis, mind, due to the businesses and residences in the villages lined up alongside the A35.

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    Re: General Election - 8thJune

    Even you being a political "Nut" (In the nicest possible way) have to agree the SW is a pretty poor relation when it comes to transport links, Especially now with that area being so "trendy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason H View Post
    Oh I agree about that stretch between Dorchester and Honiton, having had to negotiate it a number of times over the last six months or so! Not sure they can do too much between Bridport and Lyme Regis, mind, due to the businesses and residences in the villages lined up alongside the A35.
    Be fair Jason. The "martyrs" in the vicinity of 1990s Tolpuddle were persuaded to forego their land for the greater good.

    Where there is a (political) way there's a means....but, of course, unlike the Mid Wales or Settle & Carlisle railways, the major roads to our Westcountry tend not to run through too many marginal seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grecian2K View Post
    I do feel duty bound to correct you on this misapprehension, Stuffers old chap.

    Whilst the ex-GWR Teign Valley option WAS a "meandering single line track" the referenced ex LSWR/Southern Railway line around the north of the moor was, in its prime, a double tracked EXPRESS route from Waterloo to Pl*mouth (and, via the late lamented "withered arm", a large part of North Cornwall too). Track is still intact as far as Okehampton and (miraculously) the trackbed and structures are still largely intact from there, through Tavistock, until it meets the still extant Gunnislake branch at Bere Alston. Of course, reinstatement would not be "cheap" (especially the upgrading of the Meldon viaduct to 21st century standards) but compared with the millions spent almost annually nowadays of patching up "the seawall" - or, indeed, the many BILLIONS being spent on new lines for pampered Londoners!!! - surely it would not be an unreasonable expenditure to maintain access to a corner of the country where the overall transport infrastructure and reliable connectivity (road and rail) still falls well behind many other parts of the land.
    As someone with a great interest in wartime military airfields and disused railway lines, I welcome any information that adds to my knowledge, 2K. On Googling "Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LWSR," maps have made the Okehampton route quite clear.

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