Diane Abbott MP....Racist?

[DB9]

In a word or several, Diane Abbott has a chip on her shoulder, brought about by her perceptions of historical injustices meted out to blacks by their colonial white masters. Hence her references to 19th century colonialism.
She is also a hypocrite, who would be apoplectic, at some anti-black mutterings by a Tory MP from the 'Shires'. She would be the first to demand his resignation, and her big, fat fist would break the Commons debating desk with rage, until she got her way.
In my opinion, she is a kind of social commentating bellwether for an increasingly multi-ethnic UK. She has a metaphorical two-way radio to her black confidants, who will confide at the merest slight to the black race. 'We are happy to be here on your studio set, but watch what you say whitey'.
It also seems she has a problem with perceptions of 'The Black Community', as if, (she says), there is more than one. For a race, that is still a small minority, there is only one community - it's just that it is fragmented. The problem lies with whether it is able to fit into the wider society. This works both ways: the need to feel accepted, and the will to fit in.
In one corner of this black community, you have the proud and rising middle-class blacks, and those who try and rise above their circumstances, but just don't have the will or the means to do it.
Both of these black groups still have to fight off the sh*t through the letterbox. Then, in the other corner, you have the ghettoised, gang-member blacks, who shoot themselves, and shoot others who just happen to be in the way, and who despise every little thing about this white-man world. The black community is many things, but it is divided, and still fearful of another 'Stephen Lawrence'. That said, racism is not just the preserve of your ignorant white man. The number of times, I have seen it for myself from a ranting black man on the streets and on the buses of Croydon.
Diane Abbott sups the champagne as any ladder-climbing socialist, and enjoys the chit chat canapés in the corridors of Westminster. This chip weighs heavily on her shoulder though, and it won't be the last time, we hear such ill-advised comments from her. If you want proof of how she really is, you only have to watch 'This Week' on Thursday nights.
We all know she should resign, but, in this politically correct world where we have to 'do the right thing' , she knows she won't have to.

Agree with all this too, One of the main problem with Ms Abbott is she was in the 1980's one of these revolutionary left-wing militants of the old GLC and was quite often on TV and Labour conferences spouting a load of old tosh but when she had a sniff of power in 1997 she became a typical Champagne Socialist of Blair's regime. Suddenly forgot her roots, talking crap about the importance of state education while sending her child or children to a top private school. A typical Militant of the 80's who has discovered the joys of a middle-class life now

Now she's back in the shadow's of power she starts again on talking crap, Every time she is on TV, Nothing that comes out of her mouth is of any use and constantly moaning about every bloody thing, She may have apologised but my take is she said and she meant what she said

 

[arthur]

There was rather a tedious man on here a year or two ago who made the distinction between racism and racialism in some long rambling posts. Despite the fact that the word racialism has all but ceased to exist the difference remains important.

Racialism is discrimination, prejudice, stereotyping - making sweeping statements or generalisations about a race of people. Clearly Abbott has done this

Racism, like Sexism, is discrimination plus power. Apartheid is the classic example, but in a society where power lies overwhelmingly with white males racism/sexism has to be the preserve of whites & males also.

To say that women are sexist or that black people are racist is simply inaccurate - without power to enforce your prejudices, they don't deserve an ism after them.

Prejudicial, discriminatory, unhelpful and counter productive generalisations yes, but Abbotts remarks racist? No...

 

[arthur]

A typical Militant of the 80's who has discovered the joys of a middle-class life now

She always was middle class - Harrow Grammar (with M Portillo) then Cambridge

 

[tavyred]

There was rather a tedious man on here a year or two ago who made the distinction between racism and racialism in some long rambling posts. Despite the fact that the word racialism has all but ceased to exist the difference remains important.

Racialism is discrimination, prejudice, stereotyping - making sweeping statements or generalisations about a race of people. Clearly Abbott has done this

Racism, like Sexism, is discrimination plus power. Apartheid is the classic example, but in a society where power lies overwhelmingly with white males racism/sexism has to be the preserve of whites & males also.

To say that women are sexist or that black people are racist is simply inaccurate - without power to enforce your prejudices, they don't deserve an ism after them.

Prejudicial, discriminatory, unhelpful and counter productive generalisations yes, but Abbotts remarks racist? No...

Interesting distinction, and one I`ve genuinely never heard of.
I do remember people of my Dad`s generation using the word Racialist, but I don`t think in using it they were trying to make the dinstinction you have.
Interesting also that you think that Diane Abbott MP does not exert power so therefore cannot be racist, yet presumably a white MP(or any white male?) could be described as racist using your rather strange definition of racism.

 

[arthur]

Since when did MPs exert any power?

 

[mfcrocker]

There was rather a tedious man on here a year or two ago who made the distinction between racism and racialism in some long rambling posts. Despite the fact that the word racialism has all but ceased to exist the difference remains important.

Racialism is discrimination, prejudice, stereotyping - making sweeping statements or generalisations about a race of people. Clearly Abbott has done this

Racism, like Sexism, is discrimination plus power. Apartheid is the classic example, but in a society where power lies overwhelmingly with white males racism/sexism has to be the preserve of whites & males also.

To say that women are sexist or that black people are racist is simply inaccurate - without power to enforce your prejudices, they don't deserve an ism after them.

Prejudicial, discriminatory, unhelpful and counter productive generalisations yes, but Abbotts remarks racist? No...

Definitions change and the latter has become the former - privilege is no longer a requirement.

 

[Mackster]

Diane Abbott sups the champagne as any ladder-climbing socialist, and enjoys the chit chat canapés in the corridors of Westminster. This chip weighs heavily on her shoulder though, and it won't be the last time, we hear such ill-advised comments from her. If you want proof of how she really is, you only have to watch 'This Week' on Thursday nights.
We all know she should resign, but, in this politically correct world where we have to 'do the right thing' , she knows she won't have to.

I'm all for positive black role models in society, but she is appallingly bad on This Week. If anything, she is an embarassment to the black community and it would be interesting to hear the views of those who she claims to represent? Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps the whole point of Diane Abbott is that if she can reach these dizzy heights, then so can just about anyone...with a privileged education.

 

[arthur]

Definitions change and the latter has become the former - privilege is no longer a requirement.

I would refer you and Tavyred

using your rather strange definition of racism.

to Elgin City's post 49 for a far clearer explanation of what I am trying to say...

 

[Jason H]

But Abbott is both powerful and with privilege.

 

[mfcrocker]

I would refer you and Tavyred

to Elgin City's post 49 for a far clearer explanation of what I am trying to say...

I would refer you to urinal's post 50 explaining why that's utter tripe.